Australia lack world class batting talent

[Gob]

yeah winning in the one place that is most similar to Australian conditions and losing everywhere else is quite an achievement.

i would only make a post like this if i was brain damaged.

 

[Jono]

Only ever posts about a side when it loses.

so true. its not necessarily that his point is wrong, its just he aways digs the foot in to Aust and Eng on occasions like this.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

AB and Amla don't need a lot of support, I don't particularly think FAF is world class.

ah no. the most underrated player going about now when we talk about young guns

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Would be interested to know your current World XI smitt3h

DP Smith*
SG Fitzsimmons
AP Cloete
CR Butler
AJ Blackman
AP Chaulk+
DP Richards
NG Hoy
NA Borcich
NL Patrick
NS Pickup

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Would consider switching Patteh for Wilson, and moving him to #6, but honestly, Patteh is great and I love him, while Wilson supports Essendon. Easy choice.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

ah no. the most underrated player going about now when we talk about young guns

Yeah fair point, but 4 centuries. Its a bit early in his career.

 

[morgieb]

ah no. the most underrated player going about now when we talk about young guns

Young guns? He's nearly the same age as Amla and de Villiers!

 

[91Jmay]

Aussies are top heavy but they have a comparable batting line up to any other side. In slow conditions they seem to lack the ability to change their game though.

 

[Zinzan]

how many other sides have more than two world class bats?

This is the key point. 3 world-class bats at any time is quite a luxury & Aust aren't far off that, if not for Warner's slump his last 3-4 tests since knocking booze on the head.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Aussies are top heavy but they have a comparable batting line up to any other side. In slow conditions they seem to lack the ability to change their game though.

That is the problem, too one dimensional. Only really Rogers can adapt and to be honest I expected Voges would having played so much cricket over here but he was arguably the worst offender. Guess you can put it down to nerves and the occasion but he has to improve on that.

 

[ImpatientLime]

This is the key point. 3 world-class bats at any time is quite a luxury & Aust aren't far off that, if not for Warner's slump his last 3-4 tests since knocking booze on the head.

yep, the guys at the top are as good as any side can put up apart from probably south africa.

the supporting cast however is an issue. look at what stokes and ali contributed in the last test then look at aussies equivalent.

 

[Howe_zat]

People being a bit too quick to pigeon-hole Voges I think.

 

[Zinzan]

just lol

India probably have batsmen in their A-team better than Watling and Taylor

You're massively underrating Ross Taylor if you really believe that. The guy averages 45 in test cricket with 12 tons and was one of the top 2-3 bats in the world in 2013, even if he has been short on test runs recently.

Who are these Indian A players you refer to?

 

[Spark]

Aussies are top heavy but they have a comparable batting line up to any other side. In slow conditions they seem to lack the ability to change their game though.

I don't think it's a question of ability. All of the top six have played excellent innings on slow pitches. They know, intellectually, what to do. Whether it's habit, obstinacy, stupidity or sheer arrogance, though, they simply refuse to do it.

 

[Prince EWS]

India probably have batsmen in their A-team better than Watling and Taylor

To borrow the logic you dickishly use on everyone who disagrees with you about Australian players... I watch a lot of New Zealand and Indian cricket, and let me tell you that you are wrong.

 

[Tangles]

I don't think it's a question of ability. All of the top six have played excellent innings on slow pitches. They know, intellectually, what to do. Whether it's habit, obstinacy, stupidity or sheer arrogance, though, they simply refuse to do it.

#intent

 

[flibbertyjibber]

#intent

#losetowin

 

[91Jmay]

I don't think it's a question of ability. All of the top six have played excellent innings on slow pitches. They know, intellectually, what to do. Whether it's habit, obstinacy, stupidity or sheer arrogance, though, they simply refuse to do it.

Yeah but consistency is all that matters really, most international top 6 batsmen in the top 5 ranked sides have the ability to play on all manner of pitches I would say

 

[Spark]

Yeah but consistency is all that matters really, most international top 6 batsmen in the top 5 ranked sides have the ability to play on all manner of pitches I would say

Oh I absolutely agree. Which is why this continues to be exceptionally frustrating. It's not a question of ability/personnel/structural issues with the team, it just requires them to not bat like ****ing dumbasses. This better be a wake-up call, because otherwise they are not going to enjoy this series very much.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Oh I absolutely agree. Which is why this continues to be exceptionally frustrating. It's not a question of ability/personnel/structural issues with the team, it just requires them to not bat like ****ing dumbasses.

Does Lehmann take some blame for this?