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Australia lack world class batting talent

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Australia are going to lose this Ashes. And it is because their batting isn't good enough.
The holes in their batting were glossed over in this home summer's success but they have always been there.

It's not hard to see why:
1) Warner is formidable in Australia but an average player outside Australia.
2) Rogers is an average talent - lets' be perfectly frank about this. He's done ok in England but England is like a second home to him given how much county cricket he has played. He was thoroughly exposed when he played the South Africans last year. He's really lucky that he's only played in England or rather soft opposition (England, INdia)
at home. He's damn lucky he's retiring at the end of this series because I think he would be a dead duck in subcontinental conditions when Australia tour in 2016 /2017.
3) Smith - world class
4) Clarke - world class but clearly on the wane now.
5) Voges - another journeyman - let's make no bones about it. Voges has only made the Aussie team due to the complete paucity in Australian batting stocks.
If he was genuinely world class he would made the Aussie team earlier than he actually did.
6) Watto - crap
7) Haddin - has never been much of a run scorer outside Australia and of late hasn't even made runs at home.

Shaun Marsh the reserve - is a wildly inconsistent player.
AUstralia missed a massive opportunity this summer (at home against India and away to a young WIndies side) to entrench some promising young players with real talent fr the future in their top seven (joe BUrns, Mitch Marsh, Jordan Silk, Peter Neville) and they are going to pay a big price for that - in terms of coughing up the Ashes to the POms.
 

Gob

International Coach
Australia are going to lose this Ashes. And it is because their batting isn't good enough.
The holes in their batting were glossed over in this home summer's success but they have always been there.

It's not hard to see why:
1) Warner is formidable in Australia but an average player outside Australia.
2) Rogers is an average talent - lets' be perfectly frank about this. He's done ok in England but England is like a second home to him given how much county cricket he has played. He was thoroughly exposed when he played the South Africans last year. He's really lucky that he's only played in England or rather soft opposition (England, INdia)
at home. He's damn lucky he's retiring at the end of this series because I think he would be a dead duck in subcontinental conditions when Australia tour in 2016 /2017.
3) Smith - world class
4) Clarke - world class but clearly on the wane now.
5) Voges - another journeyman - let's make no bones about it. Voges has only made the Aussie team due to the complete paucity in Australian batting stocks.
If he was genuinely world class he would made the Aussie team earlier than he actually did.
6) Watto - crap
7) Haddin - has never been much of a run scorer outside Australia and of late hasn't even made runs at home.

Shaun Marsh the reserve - is a wildly inconsistent player.
AUstralia missed a massive opportunity this summer (at home against India and away to a young WIndies side) to entrench some promising young players with real talent fr the future in their top seven (joe BUrns, Mitch Marsh, Jordan Silk, Peter Neville) and they are going to pay a big price for that - in terms of coughing up the Ashes to the POms.
Averages 90 in South Africa
 

Flem274*

123/5
didn't rogers score second innings tons against SA?

but then the guy who posted the OP thinks everyone sucks.
 

Gob

International Coach
didn't rogers score second innings tons against SA?

but then the guy who posted the OP thinks everyone sucks.
yeah also scored half of the team runs against awesome Steyn

i was going to mention the Durham knock but then realize that he has played so much county cricket in England and knows the conditions in England so it shouldn't count regardless of the conditions or the quality of the bowling from Broad
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Did you see how poor Jordan Silk performed last year in the Shield and you think we should blood him for Australia?

i do agree a bit though with the OP. Someone like Burns being dropped was really harsh. The annoying part about it was that Marsh got to open in 2 Tests despite batting at 5 all year for WA who decided on Harris and Bancroft to open, while Burns made the move up to opener for Qld.
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Only ever posts about a side when it loses.
yeah that must be it.

I clearly have no point when Australia have lost 4-zip in India , 3-zip in England, 2-zip in UAE and have now lost the first test of another away series with largely the same characters in the batting lineup.
Everything fine and dandy with Australian cricket then.
 
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Salamuddin

International Debutant
If Voges doesn't have a pretty good series it is going to be an incredibly short sighted decision to have picked him ahead of BUrns who really didn't do too much wrong on debut.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
yeah that must be it.

I clearly have no point when Australia have lost 4-zip in India , 3-zip in England, 2-zip in UAE and have now lost the first test of another away series with largely the same characters in the batting lineup.
Everything fine and dandy with Australian cricket then.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
 

TheJediBrah

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not sure if srs

stupid thread

Aus has just as much "world class batting talent" as any other side in world cricket

Why are all the Aussies getting so defensive? Our batting has been **** for two years. Warner, Clarke and Smith have made it look decent.
You can say that about any other country and just substitute the names with their best 2-3 players.
 
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how many other sides have more than two world class bats?
Pakistan has an outstanding line up at the moment, but how long Misbah and Younis will be there with Sarfraz and Azar is a problem. Possibly Pakistan wins this.

Cook, Root and no Pieterson for England.

Williamson, Watling (second best test bat wicket keeper around at the moment) McCullum and Taylor (maybe) for NZ. People will throw toys about McCullum - but so many runs last year. So many.

India have Kohli and potential.

No more Sanga and Jayawardene, but still Mathews for Sri Lanka.

AB and Amla don't need a lot of support, I don't particularly think FAF is world class.
 
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OverratedSanity

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Pakistan has an outstanding line up at the moment, but how long Misbah and Younis will be there with Sarfraz and Azar is a problem.

Cook, Root and no Pieterson for England.

Williamson, McCullum and Taylor (with hope for Latham) for NZ. People will throw toys about McCullum - but so many runs last year. So many.

India have Kohli and potential.

No more Sanga and Jayawardene, but still Mathews for Sri Lanka.

AB and Amla don't need a lot of support, I don't particularly think FAF is world class.
Hasn't Rahane done enough to be called world class yet? He's had nothing but success in his career , which, so far, has almost exclusively been played overseas. Shafiq for Pak is pretty awesome as well.
 
Hasn't Rahane done enough to be called world class yet? He's had nothing but success in his career , which, so far, has almost exclusively been played overseas. Shafiq for Pak is pretty awesome as well.
Shafiq is a strong support act recently. I think Pakistan win this battle with the four previously mentioned. But Misbah is old. He must be retiring soon. He's 41.
 

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