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*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

Flem274*

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one day new zealand will bring chappell to his knees in a puddle of his own tears and as the camera pans out you'll see Phlegm on his belly greedily tasting every delicious tear before watching the hope fade from that old ****s eyes.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
one day new zealand will bring chappell to his knees in a puddle of his own tears and as the camera pans out you'll see Phlegm on his belly greedily tasting every delicious tear before watching the hope fade from that old ****s eyes.
I should be laughing, but I am now afraid of you instead.

Luckily you don't have my MSN address.
 

Days of Grace

International Captain
I do hope that Trent Boult's scans are not as serious as first feared. I read Bahnz's article several times to digest it. I even took the fact that he plans to do his own vacuming as a good sign.
I hope if he does recover that we learn from though, and use a rotation policy in the ODIs. I grudgingly accept that the two of them want to play pajama cricket. But lets get the McLeakin Runs and the Wheelers to be the people to be battered to kingdomcome in the name of fast food entertainment rather than our two class bowlers, on at least some occassions.
And if Bennett needs to be called up to be thrashed around then so be it. If Sodhi wants a turn bowling to AB Devilliers on the rampage then let him, I have no vested interest in it.

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An excellent post and I agreed with this paragraph so much.

Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering why the results of the scans haven't been revealed? Could it be the results are very bad, or returned absolutely nothing to worry about?
 
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kiwiviktor81

International Debutant
Probably nothing to worry about. I'm sure we would have heard about it by now if Boult was, say, ruled out of the Australia tour.
 

Skyliner

International 12th Man
CA are announcing their summer fixture list next week. That'll be when the (some may/will say gimmicky) day/night test is announced. The details were finalised between CA and NZC at the ICC conference in Barbados. I should think NZC will not be too far behind in confirming that one of our home tests against Australia has definitely been scrapped in favour of 3 ODIs.
Ahead of these announcements, and any possible public backlash resulting from them, a positive pre-emptive strike was unveiled today with the announcement that Baz has signed on for 'at last one more year'. All hail NZC. Although the statement actually said he'd signed on until at least the T20 WC, which concludes on 3 April.
So why didn't NZC announce the signing prior to 3 April this year? ...Aw Geez, they've (NZC) essentially made something up, and watch the suckers lap it up....it was a no brainer that Baz was staying on at least until the Aussie series's and summer programme was done and dusted, while getting the Africa tours off.
On the day Baz announced he was signing with the Heat for 3 years, NZC have piped up and said they've nabbed his signature for a 1 year (9 month) deal.
David White: cool dude, master politician, Machiavellian character.
 
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Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
An excellent post and I agreed with this paragraph so much.

Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering why the results of the scans haven't been revealed? Could it be the results are very bad, or returned absolutely nothing to worry about?
when were they due, I will look for Bahnz's article...
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
CA are announcing their summer fixture list next week. That'll be when the (some may/will say gimmicky) day/night test is announced. The details were finalised between CA and NZC at the ICC conference in Barbados. I should think NZC will not be too far behind in confirming that one of our home tests against Australia has definitely been scrapped in favour of 3 ODIs.
Ahead of these announcements, and any possible public backlash resulting from them, a positive pre-emptive strike was unveiled today with the announcement that Baz has signed on for 'at last one more year'. All hail NZC. Although the statement actually said he'd signed on until at least the T20 WC, which concludes on 3 April.
So why didn't NZC announce the signing prior to 3 April this year? ...Aw Geez, they've (NZC) essentially made something up, and watch the suckers lap it up....it was a no brainer that Baz was staying on at least until the Aussie series's and summer programme was done and dusted, while getting the Africa tours off.
On the day Baz announced he was signing with the Heat for 3 years, NZC have piped up and said they've nabbed his signature for a 1 year (9 month) deal.
David White: cool dude, master politician, Machiavellian character.
I wonder if any David White fans out there will take you to task one day. You would be surprised how many visitors read these posts. Anyway I am fine with your comments btw.
 
I wonder if any David White fans out there will take you to task one day. You would be surprised how many visitors read these posts. Anyway I am fine with your comments btw.
Skyliner appear to be merely mistaken in interpretation of the statement. The NZC contracts are for one year, and they commence 1 July and finish 30 June the following year. If you have a gander at the Future tours, after the conclusion of the World T20 on 3 April, NZC has no games scheduled till late July 2016 - which is a new contract period.

Thats not to say that we don't get a late invite to somewhere in April, May and June 2016 but it wouldn't be good for our IPL earners.
 
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Skyliner

International 12th Man
I'm not too bothered by it. By the NZC announcement that is.
I've followed the comments on stuff on stories around NZC announcements - propaganda about how we are getting more cricket that ever apparently - and one classic comment was along the lines of "we've done well in the World Cup, and look - now Australia are giving us 5 tests over the summer". Like the FTP never existed and these tours haven't been penciled in for donkeys years. I think NZC understand that the majority of punters are probably quite ignorant.
If there was a financial crisis tomorrow most people would probably be totally astonished "never saw that coming, what's QE, what's shadow banking, what's a Grexit?"
The amount of times I've been told "why would you want to be interested in history - who cares about the past".....
 

Skyliner

International 12th Man
Skyliner appear to be merely mistaken in interpretation of the statement. The NZC contracts are for one year, and they commence 1 July and finish 30 June the following year. If you have a gander at the Future tours, after the conclusion of the World T20 on 3 April, NZC has no games scheduled till late July 2016 - which is a new contract period.

Thats not to say that we don't get a late invite to somewhere in April, May and June 2016 but it wouldn't be good for our IPL earners.
Thanks for the clarification, I still think they wanted to get the announcement in early prior to the up coming news of the Aussie tours.
Does anyone expect him to go any longer than the T20 WC? Maybe by just playing one format for NZ? He's doing the BBL for 3 years, I guess he'd do the IPL for the same period(?) Maybe he could give us 3 years as a T20 specialist.
- Not that he owes NZ Cricket anything.
 
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I'm not too bothered by it. By the NZC announcement that is.
I've followed the comments on stuff on stories around NZC announcements - propaganda about how we are getting more cricket that ever apparently - and one classic comment was along the lines of "we've done well in the World Cup, and look - now Australia are giving us 5 tests over the summer". Like the FTP never existed and these tours haven't been penciled in for donkeys years. I think NZC understand that the majority of punters are probably quite ignorant.
If there was a financial crisis tomorrow most people would probably be totally astonished "never saw that coming, what's QE, what's shadow banking, what's a Grexit?"
The amount of times I've been told "why would you want to be interested in history - who cares about the past".....
Well we have India in 2019 in New Zealand to play some ODI and T20. NZC will be okay financially.
 
Thanks for the clarification, I still think they wouldn't to get the announcement in early prior to the up coming news of the Aussie tours.
Does anyone expect him to go any longer than the T20 WC? Maybe by just playing one format for NZ? He's doing the BBL for 3 years, I guess he'd do the IPL for the same period(?) Maybe he could give us 3 years as a T20 specialist.
- Not that he owes NZ Cricket anything.
Depends on his body, performances and money that he can earn.

BBL is not huge money - maybe $250,000.00 at the most - that is a Chris Gayle salary. The timing of that tournament does clash with the NZ summer. So that may be an attraction to him giving up the $180,000.00 #1 NZ contract with match fees for a year.

He has to keep performing to get huge IPL money. He may prefer the test format if he finds his 2014 form again. Be a bit strange to only play tests for NZ but be a T20 league specialist. But if anyone was to do that... it could well be Brendon. Dhoni has gone the opposite direction and quit tests. So anything is possible in today's world.

I'm not casting aspersions on BMac's ability, but I find it amusing that he has been hired by Stephen Flemming at Chennai and Vettori at Brisbane... BBL is different because only two overseas players are allowed in the squad at one time, which means there will be massive expectation and pressure placed on him to perform. He's not quite Freddie Flintoff in the charisma department, and Freddie's stay was short lived.

I think the NZ cricketing public is going to find it very hard in the future to accept player availability approaching earlier retirement dependent on T20 leagues. But it could well be a modern day reality.


Did anyone ever do the math on what the NZ players took home for the World Cup? Nice little retirement bonus for Millsy.
 
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Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Another fun little article from Mark Reason today. I'll give you three guesses who he thinks is to blame for Trent Boult's injury.
 

Skyliner

International 12th Man

He will be looking for revenge on Cairns and has called in a few markers with McCullum, who will no doubt testify against his old mucker.


This is Reason, with the 'he' being Lalit Modi.

It's a disgrace for Reason to say Modi has called in a few markers with McCullum, it implies that he has something over him and that his motivation for coming forward and testifying was the behest of Modi.

Reason would have been itching to have one more go at McCullum, but I think he's now seriously overstepped the mark. I think Garth Galloway should have a look at what he's said, it is a serious slur on his client's character and reputation.

It's also completely illogical. If McCullum was testifying due to Modi 'calling in a few markers', the time for that to happen was at Modi's libel trial.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
NZ are a good team but I think people are over hyping them slightly.

Let's look at their results objectively:

A 0-0 away draw with Bangladesh - so so result
Beating the WIndies twice (home and away) - yeah good but the WIndies are undoubtedly the weakest test team at the moment even if they do have some promising youngsters coming through.
Home wins against India and Sri Lanka - neither of whom are particularly good touring sides. And really had Kohli not dropped a dolly of Mccullum, NZ would almost certainly have lost that wellington test.
Away draw against England - a decent result but let's not get carried away. England aren't that strong - I would have been more impressed has NZ actually won the series. The way they were unable to force the issue in that first test from a position of strength is telling.
Away draw with Pakistan - probably their best result but again it was hardly a vintage Pakistan side. The fact that Pakistan spanked the Aussies 2-0 just before is more a reflection of how overrated Australia really are.

So in short, while I think they've played well I still don't think they've achieved anything really special. If they can beat OZ away later this year or even draw in Oz and maybe win or get a draw in India next year I'd start getting more excited.

Flash forward to end of the year when New Zealand have won 2-1

Yeah but that's hardly saying much considering this Australian team is without Clarke, Ponting, McGrath and Warne, with a new captain Smith, a new opener, and a weak middle order. Hardly much of an achievement really.
 

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