Skyliner
International 12th Man
You're not Arthur Green by any chance?
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*Official* New Zealand in England 2015
- Thread starter JediNudist
- Start date
CaptainGrumpy
Banned
Henry was really good to begin with over a sustained period. And hopefully that will resume. Mitch... I am a doubter. I think he has taken lucky wickets and serves pies.
CaptainGrumpy
Banned
Post of the day!
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
I'm just going to pretend I didn't read the last four pages. Cmon guys.
JediNudist
U19 Debutant
cmon guys what ???? are you an apologist for the bowling performance last night ?
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
we don't need **** posting as well as **** bowling
Skyliner
International 12th Man
Dissenting voices not toeing the company line. Henry's bowling is pure *** and all that.
CaptainGrumpy
Banned
Mitchell McClenaghan divides public opinion. He has fans. They strongly believe in his 45-50 over wickets as game changing.
JediNudist, can you update that previous post already? Please. I have asked nicely.
JediNudist
U19 Debutant
What posts are crap mate ? We are having a discussion,
Skyliner
International 12th Man
Baz's insidious influence? The pint sized Napoleon. If he wants to bowl he should have a crack.
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CaptainGrumpy
Banned
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Look it's ok to say that he bowled crap, and I'm sure that he did. But he's what, 23? He bowls late 130s outswing with a nice change-up and a bit of seam occasionally. Works for Ryan Harris. It's pretty easy to see why we like him. Wheeler also has some nice attributes. Even McCleneghan can bowl some good balls and has some skills that suit limited overs.
Remember when Boult first tried limited overs? He was carted. Thank god we didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater then.
CaptainGrumpy
Banned
Rhyno bowls mid 140's plus even on one leg in test cricket.
Everyone underestimates his pace.
JediNudist
U19 Debutant
Heading out now. Ask an admin to do it or I'll be back in 2hrs
Prefer Art but you weren't to know.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Henry gets it up around there too.
Look I'm not saying he's Ryan ****ing Harris here, just that he has some good attributes for a young bowler.
They fast-tracked him into the test side for a reason. They rate him in ODIs too. These guys are going to be good.
Skyliner
International 12th Man
I agree with everything you say. The nature of fans is that 'the team' is the manifestation of our invested hopes and dreams. It is an entity that supersedes any individual playing for it. It is the nature of things that fans will praise individuals when they do well, and criticise them when they do poorly. That does mean that I am a fair weather fan. It means that I am a fan of the entity before anything else. My opinion in the now is that Henry is not all he was cracked up to be. I would be delighted if future evidence gives me a reason to amend my opinion.
Skyliner
International 12th Man
Dani looked like fun.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
ok. Well I have seen plenty to suggest that he's a good bowler having a tough series.
Skyliner
International 12th Man
I hate the culture where people that double back and attack anyone that criticised certain players.
Brendon McCullum came in for a lot of perfectly valid criticism for a long time, and I think was losing some moral authority as leader at about the time Ross Taylor was scoring heavily, culminating in a double hundred against the Windies. I think this competition spurred McCullum into knuckling down, and he went on purple patch of run scoring resulting in his triple century.
As soon as he scored the triple century, the airwaves were full of people out for blood for anyone who criticised McCullum in the past.
This doesn't invalidate the criticism: the purpose of criticism is to voice the fact that something needs to change. Something changed: McCullum knuckled down and didn't throw his wicket away.
No matter what he's done in the past, if he throws his wicket away and it hurts the teams cause, I think it's fine to criticise him.
Brendon McCullum came in for a lot of perfectly valid criticism for a long time, and I think was losing some moral authority as leader at about the time Ross Taylor was scoring heavily, culminating in a double hundred against the Windies. I think this competition spurred McCullum into knuckling down, and he went on purple patch of run scoring resulting in his triple century.
As soon as he scored the triple century, the airwaves were full of people out for blood for anyone who criticised McCullum in the past.
This doesn't invalidate the criticism: the purpose of criticism is to voice the fact that something needs to change. Something changed: McCullum knuckled down and didn't throw his wicket away.
No matter what he's done in the past, if he throws his wicket away and it hurts the teams cause, I think it's fine to criticise him.