*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[flibbertyjibber]

Crap news for the 3 injured players though missing these games may be a plan on their part given the carnage we have seen so far.

Never thought i'd say it but our attack looks very weak without Jordan.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

I can't think that Henry is as inaccurate in domestic cricket as he has been this tour. Aside from the overbowling of the short ball, is probably straining for a little too much pace.

His pace was way down in the tests. Way down.

I think he bowls better when he has his heat up.

 

[Skyliner]

This bowling is rubbish from McLeakinruns and Henry. Wheeler bowled well, as Boult has in earlier games. Southee bowled a lot of dross in his spell. Nothing to do with bigger bats, shorter boundaries, lighter balls, batsmen with arms like Popeye or any other pathetic excuse.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

this commentator has swallowed the Baz post 45 all out interview handbook. "earn the right", "intent"

Waiting for aggresive brand of cricket?

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Skyliner! You are my favourite commentator. Go pro. Get a job in broadcasting.

 

[Zinzan]

Never thought i'd say it but our attack looks very weak without Jordan.

Really? I'm expecting Wood to be more impressive.

 

[Howsie]

how many months of proper cricket could boult miss?

i mean no one gives a **** if he misses some odis and T20s as long as he's fit for Austraya

Depends obvs. Last time he had a back injury he was gone for nigh on two years though.

 

[Meridio]

Not watching now, but it has looked to me so far this tour that they're trying to groom Henry as a hit-the-pitch third seamer type, rather than the Southee-lite that he has been previously. He's definitely bowled a lot shorter than I would have expected, both in terms of his stock ball and the number of bouncers he's bowled. Would much rather he develops as an attacking outswing bowler, it's what appears natural for him.

 

[Cabinet96]

All international limited overs cricket uses the same kookaburra ball.

 

[Skyliner]

Depends obvs. Last time he had a back injury he was gone for nigh on two years though.

Terrible news, I'd thought of Boulty as indestructible.

 

[Skyliner]

Not watching now, but it has looked to me so far this tour that they're trying to groom Henry as a hit-the-pitch third seamer type, rather than the Southee-lite that he has been previously. He's definitely bowled a lot shorter than I would have expected, both in terms of his stock ball and the number of bouncers he's bowled. Would much rather he develops as an attacking outswing bowler, it's what appears natural for him.

Mascaranus will sort him out, he knows how to develop a quality test-class fast bowler.

 

[NZTailender]

All international limited overs cricket uses the same kookaburra ball.

Geez you thought with all the money they're making they'd at least have a second one. How do they play two matches at once on different continents?!?!

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

If Mitch wants to be aggressive, why doesnt he bowl line and length and just walk down the wicket and talk about the batsman's wife?

These agressive wide long hops are sending me to an early grave.

 

[Skyliner]

India drew with the Bangas in the one-off test. Does that mean we go back to outright 3rd in the test rankings?

 

[Burner]

^Yes it does

 

[Skyliner]

If Mitch wants to be aggressive, why doesnt he bowl line and length and just walk down the wicket and talk about the batsman's wife?

These agressive wide long hops are sending me to an early grave.

If you bowl 'a heavy ball' as we are told Mitch does, then you have a licence to bowl whatever you want. The ability to ball a heavy ball, to be an into the wicket bowler, means you are a someone who really puts in - as opposed to your lazy slacker regular seam and swing bowlers. You are above criticism really.
Flintoff was revered for his 'heavy ball' credentials, among other things.

 

[Skyliner]

^Yes it does

Being in the top 3 - amongst the medals - in test cricket is important to me.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

If you bowl 'a heavy ball' as we are told Mitch does, then you have a licence to bowl whatever you want. The ability to ball a heavy ball, to be an into the wicket bowler, means you are a someone who really puts in - as opposed to your lazy slacker regular seam and swing bowlers. You are above criticism really.
Flintoff was revered for his 'heavy ball' credentials, among other things.

You just compared Mitch to Flintoff. He will take it. Not sure Freddie will.

 

[Skyliner]

Should captains tell bowlers what to bowl? I spose Coney and Jeff Crowe et al used to tell Paddles what his bowling plans should be.

 

[Bahnz]

Not sure, but I'd guess both Donald and Wright added quite a bit of value.

Nah they didn't, or at least Wright didn't. Southee was absolute arse in the 2011/12 season when Wright was coach. Donald may have had a positive influence in the short term but it didn't persist past his departure.