morgieb
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Apart from the Ashes he's often struggled since England declined from their 2009-2011 zenith tbf.We're not in 2008 anymore
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***Official*** England in West Indies 2015
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hendrix
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I defended the Benn selection and I think it would have been an outrageous selectorial decision to drop him as he'd performed well in Test cricket at least.
I only watched the first session but I did comment at the time that he wasn't bowling straight enough, which is criminal if you don't have a Vettori-esque arm ball because the batsmen can just camp back and wait for the short wide one. Which he obliged with.
I don't know whether 5 bowlers with Ramdin batting 6 is the answer. I suppose Holder and Carlos can both bat so it may well be worth it. But it will be tough being the 4th seamer on these pitches.
I only watched the first session but I did comment at the time that he wasn't bowling straight enough, which is criminal if you don't have a Vettori-esque arm ball because the batsmen can just camp back and wait for the short wide one. Which he obliged with.
I don't know whether 5 bowlers with Ramdin batting 6 is the answer. I suppose Holder and Carlos can both bat so it may well be worth it. But it will be tough being the 4th seamer on these pitches.
Athlai
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I wouldn't mind Ramdin at 6 if you brought in Dwayne Bravo or Darren Sammy.
Cabinet96
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Yeah, well that's just more not performing rather than not stepping up when England need it.
hendrix
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nah. Carlos is quite a talent from what I saw, i'd prefer him.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Benn has a few 5 wicket hauls which inflates the strike rate actually. For the times he doesn't have those 5 wicket hauls, which is most of the times he plays, the strike rate is close to 110.
"When Benn doesn't take wickets, he doesn't take wickets."
GotSpin
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better options than Darren Sammy and I wouldnt really count Dwayne Bravo anymore.
The extra bowler is a good option though in order to prevent Roach and Taylor being over bowled.
Athlai
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This is only in the hypothetical scenario where you want a 4th seamer. If you just want bits and pieces the current balance is good.
OverratedSanity
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Orly?clearly you've got no sense of fun.
Exhibit A: Observe as I barf rolleye emoticons on you
NZTailender
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His time has Benn and gone, you might say.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
So for second test what batting order do we go if Ali comes back in? I'd suggest Stokes and Ali before Buttler. Buttler is going to be better working with the tail that Stokes or Ali. Ali and Stokes are better first class bats than Buttler also so should bat higher than him. Probably go with Stokes at 6 and Ali 7 if picking on short term form.
Might get the 6.Stokes, 7.Ali, 8.Buttler, 9.Woakes, 10.Broad, 11.Anderson lower order for the ashes.
Might get the 6.Stokes, 7.Ali, 8.Buttler, 9.Woakes, 10.Broad, 11.Anderson lower order for the ashes.