29th Match - Pakistan v South Africa (7th March 2015)

[Contra]

wow that went fast, gonna be fun watch this if Afridi gets going.

 

[smash84]

This pair is capable of doing lot of damage. Afridi has to guard against a brain fart though. Interesting phase.

he hasn't been able to guard against it since 1996 at least

 

[OverratedSanity]

Waist high full toss to Afridi pls.

 

[Zinzan]

Because its interrelated, its more difficult for them to produce the same quality of cricketers that other countries can produce for reasons I just stated and yet they still do have batsmen coming through that can match the best at the top level, I never said every single Pakistani batsmen is uber talented, I never said other countries don't have talented batsmen.

I'm saying that based on whatever little I've watched of some current and past Pakistani batsmen I feel they have the raw talent that most Indian batsmen also have, the only difference is India is well developed and get the best of the best tours, facilities, IPL, coaches and non political selections (so they get a fair gig without having to "play for their place") and solid income, which allows them to play freely and give it their best. If Pakistan had all that then yes I do believe that some of their bats (not all!) would have the kind of records Indian batsmen have. Also lets not compare everyone to Kohli, the dude is even a level above other Indian batsmen so I don't even classify him in the same league. Anyways I don't have much more to add really, I just commented based on what I see and I could end up being wrong, but we'll never really know because Pakistan cricket will take a while to get to the same level as Indian cricket all round. I'm just gonna end it here because its becoming a bit of a drag now.

This was not the point I was arguing with you on, hence why it's a "straw-man" argument. You're mentioning this stuff about politics and opportunities now, but your original comment was simply the following;

Purely in terms of talent Pakistan's bats aren't that much worse than India's but man their running and temperament needs serious work.

Which I rightfully called you on, the current Indian batting lineup has much more talent than the current Pakistani one.

 

[Antihippy]

This is like the second time wasim called imran tahir imran khan.

 

[Burgey]

Who did SA drop which meant they needed ten overs out of ABdeV and Duminy?

 

[smash84]

afridi vs steyn......lolfridi

 

[ankitj]

Waist high full toss to Afridi pls.

Haha, yeah. India have worked him out in that respect

 

[SkyBlue]

Afridi playing like a true tail-ender when facing the pacemen.

 

[ankitj]

Contra - you seem to be shifting the goal post. Enjoy the current proceeding. Much more interesting

 

[smash84]

Afridi playing like a true tail-ender when facing the pacemen.

afridi is a tail ender. Mitchell Starc has an average 6 runs higher than him

 

[Contra]

Which I rightfully called you on, the current Indian batting lineup has much more talent than the current Pakistani one.

That's your opinion (just like my comment was my opinion). I don't see how you could "rightfully call me out" when its opinion vs opinion.

 

[BeeGee]

Nah, they don't have the class of player they had in '92...Big difference. Who are their Wasim Akrams, Imran Khans, Miandads & Inzamam?

Misbah, Akmal and Afridi.

 

[ankitj]

What a bummer.

 

[ankitj]

Misbah close to becoming leading scorer in this WC. Might as well. Gayle in that position is a shame.

 

[smash84]

rain again

 

[Zinzan]

That's your opinion (just like my comment was my opinion). I don't see how you could "rightfully call me out" when its opinion vs opinion.

Mate, even Smalishah who was originally on your side saw the obvious Gambhiring going on

I'd just leave it there, you're digging extremely deep now.

Opinions are opinions, but nobody in the right mind would honestly say this current Pakistan batting unit aren't much worse than India's. And I respect your posting too much to really believe you mean that.

 

[Zinzan]

Misbah, Akmal and Afridi.

But that's only 3 ATGs compared with 4 in '92

 

[smash84]

this stop play stop play stop cycle is so annoying......just let it pour properly ffs

 

[Chewie]

The dark clouds appear to be gone so we might get some play now