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20th Match - New Zealand v Australia

Who will win this match?


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straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Finishing top could mean playing Ireland in the quarters though.
Finishing second could also mean playing Ireland in the quarters tbf. And is Ireland really much less of a threat than Pakistan or WI? Finishing top 2 in Pool A is important to avoid India and SA but beyond that you just get one of the random/'mercurial'/not-very-good sides making up the rest of Group B.

Yeah, Ireland would be ideal, followed by Pakistan & then the Windies.
Agree with the order but there's not a lot in it, and they're all teams NZ and Oz would strongly back themselves to beat.

As I said prior, I'll be more worried if SA drop another game or two... and qualify 3rd or 4th as opposed to 2nd.
Can't see that happening.
 
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Zinzan

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Finishing second could also mean playing Ireland in the quarters tbf. And is Ireland really much less of a threat than Pakistan or WI? Finishing top 2 in Pool A is important to avoid India and SA but beyond that you just get one of the random/'mercurial'/not-very-good sides making up the rest of Group B.
Yup, this is effectively the point I was making, but you've articulated it more succinctly.
 

Jono

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How many times will comms and journos use the phrase "preview of the Final" for this game? I reckon a lot.
 

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I really hope they don't, but I think you'll be right.
Yeah, would be really stupid and annoying. As hopeful as we are about our chances, you can't say that sort of thing about a team that has never shown it can even make it to the WC final before. We still have a lot to prove.
 

Flem274*

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I wouldn't mind three tough games tbh. No one wants to rock up to a semi having dicked some band of cbf's while the other side has had a tight finish against South Africa or India to get there.

Plus India (for example) would find the cake tin hardest to score a massive total so let's take them there rather than eden park in case it's a non-swing day for eden park.
 

Zinzan

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I wouldn't mind three tough games tbh. No one wants to rock up to a semi having dicked some band of cbf's while the other side has had a tight finish against South Africa or India to get there.

Plus India (for example) would find the cake tin hardest to score a massive total so let's take them there rather than eden park in case it's a non-swing day for eden park.
That may be true about the Cake-tin not suiting India, but it's a mute point. There's no way India will meet NZ in the quarters unless one of the teams finishes worst than 2nd in their respective pool...& that ain't going to happen.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
That may be true about the Cake-tin not suiting India, but it's a mute point. There's no way India will meet NZ in the quarters unless one of the teams finishes worst than 2nd in their respective pool...& that ain't going to happen.
Common mistake but for some unknown reason the saying is "moot point"
 

Zinzan

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Common mistake but for some unknown reason the saying is "moot point"
Seems you're correct. ;) I was always under the impression 'moot' was used in the English phasing and 'mute' in the American. Learn something new everyday.
 
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GGG

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s Ireland really much less of a threat than Pakistan or WI.
Of course they are, well certainly less of a threat that WI but still Pakistan are a bigger threat. These teams always lose to lowly ranked teams every now and then. Gezzz would anyone seriously rather play WI or Pak than Ireland?
 

cnerd123

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Pak > Ireland > WI in terms of teams I would want to face in a KO match.

Pak are hopeless now. Ireland are disciplined and consistent but limited. WI are lethal on a good day.
 

Jimbo the giant

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Pak > Ireland > WI in terms of teams I would want to face in a KO match.

Pak are hopeless now. Ireland are disciplined and consistent but limited. WI are lethal on a good day.
Pakistan are easily better than Ireland when they both play well, Ireland would be a gimme.
 

Zinzan

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Usual over-the-top sensationalism from journalists desperately searching for a controversial soundbite/headline. Warner was actually quite complementary of McCullum overall.


David Warner lives up to bad reputation by goading Brendon McCullum and Kiwi fans | Stuff.co.nz


His bruising strokeplay could stand between Australia and the top spot in Cricket World Cup Group A, but Brendon McCullum is susceptible to a "brain explosion", according to opener David Warner, who has revved up what he expects to be a hostile Eden Park crowd by calling on them to boo the Australians on Saturday.

McCullum blasted the tournament's fastest ever 50 in their annihilation of England in Wellington - albeit in a modest run chase - and coming off a year in which he became New Zealand's first triple centurion in test cricket, and posted two other double centuries and a score of 195, hype surrounding the Black Caps captain is merited.

Australia, however, enter the trans-Tasman clash with opener Aaron Finch coming off a hundred against England and his batting partner believes McCullum can be undone if their attack bowls the right way to him.

"I won't give advice to the bowlers, they should know what line and length to bowl to McCullum," Warner said, "but if he nicks them we've got to catch them."

"If they bowl the right line and lengths we'll get him out. He's a player who can come down the wicket, use the off side well. We've got to back our strengths. If we bowl well to him, we'll create the pressure and he'll have a brain explosion."

The combative Warner expects a rough reception at a sold-out Eden Park but is typically not shying away from it.

"I hope they come out and boo us and give us crap like they always do," he said.

"That's what's going to happen. We love it, it gets us up and going, gets the adrenaline going for sure.

"I love it. You get some obscure swear words and a couple of things thrown at you, but that's what you expect when you come here. It's happened before. It's probably going to happen again. But I embrace it. They can give it to me as much as they want. I'll just get it on board and let my bat do the talking."

McCullum, 33, has been on the international scene for 13 years. He has played 42 of his 243 ODIs against the Australians and those who where there remember well the Twenty20 clash in Christchurch five years ago when he bashed a 56-ball unbeaten 116 to lead the Kiwis to a thrilling victory.

That game was tied and it was Warner and Cameron White who came out to face the super over before McCullum and Martin Guptill got the Black Caps home.

"I think a lot of people have seen in the last 10 years how Brendon McCullum can bat. It's not by fluke or by chance he's come out and scored the runs he has," Warner said.

"He's had a great last 12 months but at the end of the day he's one player out of the rest of their team."

The Australians have also seen plenty of McCullum in the Indian Premier League, where on the opening night of that tournament he hit a jaw-dropping 158 in 2008. Darren Lehmann has also coached him in the Big Bash League at the Brisbane Heat.

"I haven't played much against him," Warner said, "but he seems like a great guy."

"I think a lot of the guys know him off the field. He seems like a great, humble guy. But when we walk on the field it's going to be a different story."
 

Flem274*

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would be nice if stuff did less **** stirring and more talking about the other 20 really good players who will take the field.

Starc and johnson will enjoy eden park. Starc the swing,and johnson the bounce and carry. really keen to watch them bowl even if theywreck us.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah it's a rubbish headline.

On this:
"I hope they come out and boo us and give us crap like they always do," he said.

Do NZ cricket crowds really boo the aussies? I can't remember an occasion. Obviously I'm quite aware of the booing of Quade Cooper but I don't remember it from a cricket crowd. I hope it doesn't happen.
 

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Eden Park booed Brett Lee a few times, but it was generally provoked - one after he hit McCullum with a beamer, the other after he hit Papps in the head.
 

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