9th Match - New Zealand v England

[Zinzan]

Fri Feb 20 (50 ovs) 14:00 local (01:00 GMT)


Pool A - New Zealand v England Westpac Stadium, Wellington LIVE D/N

 

[Days of Grace]

Can't afford to be too complacent after a hugely important win against the Scots.

 

[Zinzan]

Interesting selection conundrum for NZ. Mills has bowled well in his last few games at Westpac if my memory serves. Was certainly excellent up front against Pakistan.

Could this be the ground we see a three-pronged Mills, Southee & Boult.

If that was the case, is there an argument for Mills & Boult to take the new ball with Southee first-drop?

 

[Days of Grace]

There is no way Milne is playing three in a row. Mills? Or Mitch to troll the English out?

No problem with playing three new ball bowlers with a new ball at either end. If you rotate early, the first change will get a ball that is three overs old.

 

[Bahnz]

If that was the case, is there an argument for Mills & Boult to take the new ball with Southee first-drop?

Definitely - the two worked well together against Pakistan a couple of weeks back, and Southee definitely has more obvious qualities as a first change/later innings bowler. But I still reckon that it'll be a repeat of Southee, Boult, Milne for Friday.

 

[Bahnz]

There is no way Milne is playing three in a row. Mills? Or Mitch to troll the English out?

No problem with playing three new ball bowlers with a new ball at either end. If you rotate early, the first change will get a ball that is three overs old.

Why not? If he's a serious contender then he'll have to do it at the end of the competition, so NZ might as well give him a test run now.

 

[Days of Grace]

Why not? If he's a serious contender then he'll have to do it at the end of the competition, so NZ might as well give him a test run now.

You don't give a bloke who has a history of injuries three consecutive games when there are so many games remaining and there are very good bowlers as back-up.

 

[Burgey]

Looking forward to this one immensely. Broad and Anderson will obviously be crucial for England if there's anything through the air or off the deck. Bell with the bat is clearly the key bloke (which pretty much tells you how bad they're going, but still). He's technically correct and solid enough to bat through in NZ conditions. Reckon this might be pretty close tbh.

 

[Bahnz]

You don't give a bloke who has a history of injuries three consecutive games when there are so many games remaining and there are very good bowlers as back-up.

If Milne can't get through three games in a row, then there's no point in selecting him in the first place. If necessary, he can be rested for the Bangladesh game at the end of pool play (the Hamilton surface is unlikely to suit him anyway).

 

[Bahnz]

Looking forward to this one immensely. Broad and Anderson will obviously be crucial for England if there's anything through the air or off the deck. Bell with the bat is clearly the key bloke (which pretty much tells you how bad they're going, but still). He's technically correct and solid enough to bat through in NZ conditions. Reckon this might be pretty close tbh.

Yeah, the biggest concern from an NZ pov is how little exposure NZ have had to quality pace bowling in the last 12 months. There's a real risk that the top order could come apart if England bowl well. Still, New Zealand have a strong record at the Stadium (I think only SA have beaten us there in ODI's in the last 10 years).

 

[Flem274*]

We have to win this. Even if we win the tournament losing to England in ODIs is against natural law and it would be second only to losing to India in the awfulness stakes.

 

[Jimbo the giant]

Yeah, the biggest concern from an NZ pov is how little exposure NZ have had to quality pace bowling in the last 12 months. There's a real risk that the top order could come apart if England bowl well. Still, New Zealand have a strong record at the Stadium (I think only SA have beaten us there in ODI's in the last 10 years).

I recall Kulasekara acting like he won the world cup there?

 

[Bahnz]

Glorified warm-up match, doesn't count obvz.

Picking NZ to win by 50ish runs/4 wickets.

 

[Jimbo the giant]

I'm not worried about our bowling, although I quite like the idea of playing millsy actually.

I think the first 10 overs of our innings will be crucial. Anderson and Broad are a quality opening pair and most of Englands success has revolved around them knocking the top off the opposition early. Also England have pathetic death bowling options. If we are 3 down after 35 then we will go big.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think the fact that Anderson is seen as a legitimate death option means Mills could definitely play as a specialist middle overs bowler if you were that way inclined. It'd require Mills to be fit enough to get through heaps of his overs is a pretty short period but he was completely bowled out by the 30th in a game recently so I don't think it's unworkable.

 

[Athlai]

I think the fact that Anderson is seen as a legitimate death option means Mills could definitely play as a specialist middle overs bowler if you were that way inclined. It'd require Mills to be fit enough to get through heaps of his overs is a pretty short period but he was completely bowled out by the 30th in a game recently so I don't think it's unworkable.

Only need to bowl Mills out by the 42nd or be prepared to share a few of and Corey's overs with Elliott/Williamson.

Doable.

But I think we should stick with Southee/Boult as the new ball pair. If I'd make a change it'd be Milne out for the Jamster.

 

[Prince EWS]

But I think we should stick with Southee/Boult as the new ball pair.

Yeah me too; hence suggesting Mills as a specialist middle overs bowler. The opening combo doesn't necessarily have to be changed for MIlls to play. I'd definitely rather Mills play a middle overs role than McClenaghan but the latter always proves me wrong tbf.

 

[Grasshopper]

Yeah me too; hence suggesting Mills as a specialist middle overs bowler. The opening combo doesn't necessarily have to be changed for MIlls to play. I'd definitely rather Mills play a middle overs role than McClenaghan but the latter always proves me wrong tbf.

McClenaghan's taken 15 wickets in 5 ODIs against England. He'd be my third seamer in Wgtn.

 

[ImpatientLime]

the black caps are going in dry.

pls be gentle.

 

[veganbob]

I'd open with Mills and Boult, Southee in as first change.

If Mitch plays then southee opens with Mills and boult drops out,