***Official**** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2014/2015

[kiwiviktor81]

I'd guess they'd rate McClenaghan higher than Milne.

 

[Zinzan]

Must say, watching Bopara's horrendous 7 off 16 in the slog overs just makes me appreciate our 6 & 7 all the more.

 

[Athlai]

Credit where it's due, Boulty did bowled well today. Surely Mills has to be given a run in the last 2 games, actually surprised he didn't play today.

It's tough to know how the McHessgar gang rank the 5 pace bowlers within the squad.

As of today I'm guessing their rankings would be,

Southee
Mills
Milne
McClenaghan
Boult

Obv much depends on how Mills looks on his return.

I'd say they'd probably rate it something like

Southee (opening bowler, middle over wickets, death bowler)
Mills (opening bowler, second power play) / McClenaghan (3rd seamer, middle over wickets, death bowler)
Boult (opening bowler, death bowler)
Milne (3rd seamer, middle over wickets, death bowler)

I think they really do rate Boult because Henry is definitely a better bowler than Milne, it's just that they serve different roles.

 

[Zinzan]

I'd say they'd probably rate it something like

Southee (opening bowler, middle over wickets, death bowler)
Mills (opening bowler, second power play) / McClenaghan (3rd seamer, middle over wickets, death bowler)
Boult (opening bowler, death bowler)
Milne (3rd seamer, middle over wickets, death bowler)

I think they really do rate Boult because Henry is definitely a better bowler than Milne, it's just that they serve different roles.

Perhaps they do really rate him.

And how do you rank the 5 (or 6 if you want to include Henry)?

 

[Athlai]

Perhaps they really are rating Boult then.

And how do you rank the 5 (or 6 if you want to include Henry)?

Henry would probably be equal with Mills and McCleenenene in my books. I don't think he is a better bowler than either of them but he is a better opening bowler than McClenenen and a better death bowler than Mills. He'd be my preferred 'complete' bowler.

If Mills proves to be out of form, I'd have him partner Southee.

 

[NZTailender]

Couldn't have had a better days cricket (apart from the whole 5/90 thing but hey we were fine). Weather was glorious and a few sixes came our way (and went over and out of the ground).

Boult bowling Jayawardene looked so gun.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Must say, watching Bopara's horrendous 7 off 16 in the slog overs just makes me appreciate our 6 & 7 all the more.

Just a *little* bit of difference in the bowling quality may have had something to do with that. Ya know, hitting a reasonable line and length at any point in the last 10 overs may have helped Sri Lanka.

 

[Greenlite]

Can they bowl out Mills in the opening spell and leave McC till the 25-30th over?

Then Southee/Mills/McC might be the combo for the knock out games.

Milne just concerns me because if he breaks down during the semis then we are finished.

Boult seems to be there as a back up lefty bowler.

Henry is the cheaper version of McC who also takes early wickets like Bond and Tuffey, we haven't had that for a while (Henry had a dropped catch v Dilshan@6 in 2nd ODI). Would love to see him rip through the AUS and SA batsmen. Sigh.

 

[Athlai]

Can they bowl out Mills in the opening spell and leave McC till the 25-30th over?

Then Southee/Mills/McC might be the combo for the knock out games.

Milne just concerns me because if he breaks down during the semis then we are finished.

Boult seems to be there as a back up lefty bowler.

Henry is the cheaper version of McC who also takes early wickets like Bond and Tuffey, we haven't had that for a while (Henry had a dropped catch v Dilshan@6 in 2nd ODI). Would love to see him rip through the AUS and SA batsmen. Sigh.

I think the best thing to do with Mills is get him to bowl 6-7 at the top and 3-4 at around the second powerplay mark. We give him a lot of **** but he isn't totally hopeless at that stage. I'd say he is at his worst against mindless slogging, can actually pick up a wicket or two in the second powerplay. But I'd very much like to never see him bowl after the 42nd over in this world cup.

 

[Zinzan]

Just a *little* bit of difference in the bowling quality may have had something to do with that. Ya know, hitting a reasonable line and length at any point in the last 10 overs may have helped Sri Lanka.

No doubt the Australian bowlers are a more challenging proposition than some of the garbage we saw from SL today. The greater point is 7 off 16 is utterly diabolical against any attack when your in the slog overs with wickets in hand.

I refuse to believe Anderson or Ronchi would have stuttered like that if they faced as many as 16 deliveries in that situation.

But you're welcome to Ravi & I'll keep Anderson & Ronchi thanks very much.

 

[YorksLanka]

I imagine most Sri Lankans, unaware of the racial stereotypes about polynesians and KFC, would've assumed that he meant that Taylor really likes KFC.

i didnt hear the original quote as was getting my beauty sleep but reading the comments on here, i dont know the conotation and so yes, just assumed it was a jibe at his weight from an ex team mate (as he doesnt have a weight problem imo) - saying that, if i thought of a ball as a piece of the colonel's finest, i may catch more too!!
Well done to NZ, i couldnt believe the scorecard when i got up this morning after watching the first couple of hours and departing for my bed leaving NZ 5/100 i thought we would get you out for about 200 and then we would get skittled for 150 given the bowling conditions.
As i didnt see it i wanted to ask you guys,was it genuinely good play from Ronchi or was poor captaincy a contributory factor?- the first we cant do anything about, but the second we can- hence my question rather than trying to belittle Ronchi(well done to him)..
I am pleased that Thirri got some runs for us as opener as i have talked about this for a while now and we can send Dimuth back to the test team to continue his form in the longer format. This woould allow us to juggle the team adding a quick which we clearly need.. 1.Dilshan,2.Thirri, 3.Sanga 4.Mahela 5.Mathews 6. Chandiguns 7.Thisara/Jeevan 8. Kula 9. Satchi 10. Herath 11. Eranga - no Malinga as he wont be fit..

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

No doubt the Australian bowlers are a more challenging proposition than some of the garbage we saw from SL today. The greater point is 7 off 16 is utterly diabolical against any attack when your in the slog overs with wickets in hand.

I refuse to believe Anderson or Ronchi would have stuttered that badly facing as many as 16 deliveries in that situation.

Maybe, but I don't think Anderson or Ronchi would have scored anywhere near as many if they were facing excellent, swinging deliveries in the blockhole-yorker length allied with some good use of pace variation. Mind you, it's easier to bowl good deliveries when the batsman is having a tough time against it. Bopara was outthought and outplayed, but it isn't as if Buttler, Woakes or Broad did much (if any) better.

 

[Greenlite]

I think the best thing to do with Mills is get him to bowl 6-7 at the top and 3-4 at around the second powerplay mark. We give him a lot of **** but he isn't totally hopeless at that stage. I'd say he is at his worst against mindless slogging, can actually pick up a wicket or two in the second powerplay. But I'd very much like to never see him bowl after the 42nd over in this world cup.

I remember back in 04/05 vs SA where we were leading by 25 runs with one over left and Mills kept on getting thrashed but we ended up winning by 1-2 runs, for at least 2 games, then he became awesome at the death. Not sure what happened to his death bowling in the last few years as I don't have Sky till last year (see, no free coverage of cricket robbed our kids of learning from the best players and commentators on TV). But that experience would be handy for our young bowlers.

 

[Moss]

As i didnt see it i wanted to ask you guys,was it genuinely good play from Ronchi or was poor captaincy a contributory factor?- the first we cant do anything about, but the second we can- hence my question rather than trying to belittle Ronchi(well done to him)..

Bit of both I reckon. As soon as Ronchi came on, the skipper decided this was the opportunity to bowl out Mendis and himself, probably inspired by the fact that he had just picked up two cheap wickets. Those guys gave away freebies and Senanayake was being milked around easily, so I suppose the logical thing to do was to bring back the pacers. But he kept bowling those three and before you knew it the momentum was completely reversed.

Having said that Ronchi seemed to come out and play with a wonderfully uncluttered mind, and Elliott was in the zone and an ideal foil. The partnership was Zen-like from the word go.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

As i didnt see it i wanted to ask you guys,was it genuinely good play from Ronchi or was poor captaincy a contributory factor?

I don't think captaincy was a factor, it was a combination of excellent hitting and poor bowling.

 

[Zinzan]

Maybe, but I don't think Anderson or Ronchi would have scored anywhere near as many if they were facing excellent, swinging deliveries in the blockhole-yorker length allied with some good use of pace variation. Mind you, it's easier to bowl good deliveries when the batsman is having a tough time against it. Bopara was outthought and outplayed, but it isn't as if Buttler, Woakes or Broad did much (if any) better.

Still not sure if you're agreeing or not. Do you think Corey or Luke would have scored more than 7 had either of them faced as many as 16 deliveries against that Aussie attack at the death with wickets in hand?

I say an emphatic yes.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Still not sure if you're agreeing or not. Do you think Corey or Luke would have scored more than 7 had either of them faced as many as 16 deliveries against that Aussie attack at the death with wickets in hand?

I say an emphatic yes.

I say yes, but not substantially more. I'd say run a ball at most if they came in at the same time as Bopara facing those Australian bowlers on an Australian wicket. Ronchi perhaps more likely to come off in those circumstances I'd say.

 

[Hurricane]

I say yes, but not substantially more. I'd say run a ball at most if they came in at the same time as Bopara facing those Australian bowlers on an Australian wicket. Ronchi perhaps more likely to come off in those circumstances I'd say.

AWTA
It was more a case of good bowling than **** batting.

That said Bopara had no urgency when he came out initially and Clarke was quite right in saying facing 4 dot balls is criminal.

While that was the best death bowling I have ever seen if Buttler could manage a run a ball inning then so should have Bopara.

 

[Howsie]

Where have all the Boult haters gone?

 

[Zinzan]

AWTA
It was more a case of good bowling than **** batting.

That said Bopara had no urgency when he came out initially and Clarke was quite right in saying facing 4 dot balls is criminal.

While that was the best death bowling I have ever seen if Buttler could manage a run a ball inning then so should have Bopara.

It was good bowling, but don't forget Ronchi's strength is getting full-bowling away. The margin of error for bowling an effective yorker to Ronchi is a significantly less than Bopara with the way Ronchi stays deep in his crease.

And I can't think of many better at dispatching low full tosses than the Donkey.