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***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

Contra

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
hendrix said:
I don't think India can really be gutted to lose this as much as the Eden Park test because they never bowled the Aussie side out. The first innings declaration was particularly sporting. Quite different games really; this pitch was much flatter.
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I don't see how that makes a difference, yes we didn't bowl well in this test match but that doesn't change the fact that we had yet another realistic chance at an overseas victory. With each defeat it gets harder and harder to take because within one year we have missed out on 4 games that we had a realistic chance of winning. It's a case of so near yet so far for India. Having said that, losing such games is a lot better than the last 2 test matches in England where we simply gave up.
 
Swingpanzee

Swingpanzee

International Regular
Furball said:
I'll be amazed if Clarke doesn't play at Sydney.
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Nah he's got to keep off the field for a solid period of time and get an extended rest. His priority now is simply to play the Ashes next year, and maybe a home summer (but unlikely) and he shouldn't risk re-injuring himself by rushing back to the field like he's done so many times this year.
 
hendrix

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Contra said:
I don't see how that makes a difference, yes we didn't bowl well in this test match but that doesn't change the fact that we had yet another realistic chance at an overseas victory. With each defeat it gets harder and harder to take because within one year we have missed out on 4 games that we had a realistic chance of winning. It's a case of so near yet so far for India. Having said that, losing such games is a lot better than the last 2 test matches in England where we simply gave up.
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I think India's best cricket away from home comes on pitches that offer something for the bowlers and I enjoy seeing them succeed in such conditions - degrees of success in England, SA and NZ made for great contests.

I didn't see this match as a great contest. It would be an anomaly for a side to lose having declared twice. They might have got close but I don't think they were even close to being up to standard.

Superb batting from Kohli and Vijay made it a spectacle.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Indian fans knew almost everything from this test. Bowlers stink on pitches like this, certain batsmen are very good or good overseas - Kohli, Vijay, Pujara and Rahane

What we have learned (or rather had confirmed) is that when the pressure is really on and we need Rohit to perform overseas, he falls flat. Auckland and Adelaide - if Rohit can give us 40 runs we win. But he's too much of a **** to do that. Cape Town (or wherever the 2nd test vs. SA was) - if Rohit can not be a ****ing tool and get owned by Steyn we draw that match and draw the series.

He can be as amazing as he wants in ODIs, but his failures in tests are now at warning level. And most know I have been a massive defender of Rohit on this Board so even I'm losing patience. Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
 
weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
Indian fans knew almost everything from this test. Bowlers stink on pitches like this, certain batsmen are very good or good overseas - Kohli, Vijay, Pujara and Rahane

What we have learned (or rather had confirmed) is that when the pressure is really on and we need Rohit to perform overseas, he falls flat. Auckland and Adelaide - if Rohit can give us 40 runs we win. But he's too much of a **** to do that. Cape Town (or wherever the 2nd test vs. SA was) - if Rohit can not be a ****ing tool and get owned by Steyn we draw that match and draw the series.

He can be as amazing as he wants in ODIs, but his failures in tests are now at warning level. And most know I have been a massive defender of Rohit on this Board so even I'm losing patience. Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
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Rohit is talented, inconsistent and unreliable. And we have used one such talented, inconsistent and unreliable batsman at test level to great effect - Virender Sehwag.

Perhaps such a batsman batting at no. 6 hurts us, specially in 4th innings. Perhaps we should try him as a replacement of Dhawan. (like Sehwag)
 
smash84

smash84

The Tiger King
yeah having him as a replacement for Dhawan might not be a bad idea. He definitely looks good. I think he seems to be in and out of the test side a lot as well. Should be given an extended run and then be made a decision about.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
smalishah84 said:
surprised at kohli's post match conference, pleasantly surprised that is. What a stark contrast from Dhoni's post match conferences. So much better and giving credit to the opposition as well
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Don't think Dhoni was any different at giving credit to the opposition, surely... Plus, with our bowling, we never deserved to win this test in spite of some great performances with the bat..
 
adub

adub

International Captain
Spark said:
How good was Johnson's first nut with the second new ball? Very few batsmen would have kept that out IMO
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and if they had it would have been an arsey inside edge onto the pads. Cracking cherry to cop first up.
 
cnerd123

cnerd123

likes this
weldone said:
Rohit is talented, inconsistent and unreliable. And we have used one such talented, inconsistent and unreliable batsman at test level to great effect - Virender Sehwag.

Perhaps such a batsman batting at no. 6 hurts us, specially in 4th innings. Perhaps we should try him as a replacement of Dhawan. (like Sehwag)
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Bad comparison. Rohit can not handle pressure. Sehwag thrived under it.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
weldone said:
Rohit is talented, inconsistent and unreliable. And we have used one such talented, inconsistent and unreliable batsman at test level to great effect - Virender Sehwag.

Perhaps such a batsman batting at no. 6 hurts us, specially in 4th innings. Perhaps we should try him as a replacement of Dhawan. (like Sehwag)
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Nahhhh.. Viru had an attitude at that point which was all his own in World Cricket.. And he bullied bowlers into bowling defensively and made runs.. Even though he was unreliable overseas, in his best years (basically pre 2011), he was always good for a 30 or 40 every 2nd innings or so... And the odd 50 and the even rarer 100s also happened overseas.. Rohit is nowhere near that level and I do not think he is talented enough to pull off strokeplay like that either... He needs to be given the next test but if he fails again, I honestly would think it is time for him, esp. given our bowling and if India are seriously looking at playing 5 bowlers overseas... And if Bhuvi is back, there is no reason why that can't be a reality.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Spark said:
If Clarke says he's out you know he's out, and out for probably a fair bit more too.
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Maybe things will have moved on by then but given the circumstances sorrounding Hughes' falling and that I expect the series to be done, I think Clarke will play some part at Sydney.
 
smash84

smash84

The Tiger King
honestbharani said:
Don't think Dhoni was any different at giving credit to the opposition, surely... ..
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Dhoni was really really bad at giving credit to the opposition. That's the worst thing that I find about him. In his comments its (almost) always about how his team didn't do well and how his plans didn't work because some aspect of India's operations went awry. He rarely talks about the opposition let alone give them credit.
 
OverratedSanity

OverratedSanity

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Had to slip in a lower case character in there because for some reason if I type in an entire sentence in upper case, it automatically converts them to lower. WTF?
 
Contra

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
hendrix said:
I think India's best cricket away from home comes on pitches that offer something for the bowlers and I enjoy seeing them succeed in such conditions - degrees of success in England, SA and NZ made for great contests.

I didn't see this match as a great contest. It would be an anomaly for a side to lose having declared twice. They might have got close but I don't think they were even close to being up to standard.

Superb batting from Kohli and Vijay made it a spectacle.
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Whether or not we were up to standard collectively as a team doesn't mean that Indian fans aren't gutted though (which is the point I'm arguing). We failed here twice bowling wise yes, but then if you want to look at it like that then we can go back to Auckland and Joburg and say we failed once each batting and bowling wise, It's not like we were bossing those tests outright either.
 
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