***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

[Cevno]

But if the test goes ahead the players WILL feel obliged to play, they're professional cricketers ffs. No matter how much they say there's no pressure to play the players will still feel there is.

But maybe some of them actually wanna play as they might feel it will help them cope better or as a tribute to him. Many cricketers have continued playing when a family member died in a few days or when a family member was terribly sick even.Yeah, this happened on the field but I dunno how sitting at home and thinking about it for months will help a professional sportsmen either when they ultimately will have to carry one at some time?

As i said first test can maybe be cancelled especially considering timing of the funeral, but you cannot now stop cricket for months and cancel the series.

If others who might have been closer to him or playing that match still aren't in position to play and not at their best they will ask for a break themselves and doubt the CA would force them like that. I agree there is implied pressure for professional cricketers but you cannot assume they all don't wanna play either. And if you do then for how long?


As i said before this type of tragic incident has happened before in several sports and most continued in days. From F1 to cycling to Football.

Edit - Also what Greg said.

 

[Spikey]

Impossible to see how the first test could go on. If it was Michael Clarke who had just died, do you think Hughes would really want to play the test?

 

[Daemon]

But maybe some of them actually wanna play as they might feel it will help them cope better or as a tribute to him. Many cricketers have continued playing when a family member died in a few days or when a family member was terribly sick even.Yeah, this happened on the field but I dunno how sitting at home and thinking about it for months will help a professional sportsmen either when they ultimately will have to carry one at some time?

As i said first test can maybe be cancelled especially considering timing of the funeral, but you cannot now stop cricket for months and cancel the series.

If others who might have been closer to him or playing that match still aren't in position to play and not at their best they will ask for a break themselves and doubt the CA would force them like that. I agree there is implied pressure for professional cricketers but you cannot assume they all don't wanna play either. And if you do then for how long?


As i said before this type of tragic incident has happened before in several sports and most continued in days. From F1 to cycling to Football.

Edit - Also what Greg said.

Just the first test though, he's not saying cancel the entire series.

 

[Valer]

I'd probably have the first test go ahead. If nothing else I could see it being a real ****fest with the BCCI given how the WI situation went down.

You really are doing damage to your chances if you don't play however even if they don't hold it against you. When you don't play your competition gets to play and probably advance their position especially when your team is favored to win.

Edit: to clarify that should be their position in the minds of the selectors.

 

[Burgey]

I'd probably have the first test go ahead. If nothing else I could see it being a real ****fest with the BCCI given how the WI situation went down.

You really are doing damage to your chances if you don't play however even if they don't hold it against you. When you don't play your competition gets to play and probably advance their position especially when your team is favored to win.

Do you reckon they're worried about their test ranking?

 

[Valer]

Do you reckon they're worried about their test ranking?

? This has nothing to do with test rankings.

Say we look at Siddle and Hazlewood. If say Siddle doesn't want to play. CA say that's fine take as much time as you need. In a situation where Australia wins Hazlewood has to play actively poorly to not increase his chances of playing future tests. This probably isn't on either of their minds right now but it matters for selection going forward.

 

[Cevno]

Just the first test though, he's not saying cancel the entire series.

Earlier there were suggestions about cancelling the series but Don't disagree with either cancelling or postponing the first test till later if there is space in the schedules. But i'd suggest that the decision be taken in a few days and closer to the game after consultations with everyone.

I'd probably have the first test go ahead. If nothing else I could see it being a real ****fest with the BCCI given how the WI situation went down.

You really are doing damage to your chances if you don't play however even if they don't hold it against you. When you don't play your competition gets to play and probably advance their position especially when your team is favored to win.

While the BCCI are shameless and cannot be sure about what'd they do doubt they will hold CA to those levels for cancelling anything in these circumstances.

In that case WICB ****ed up in it's internal matter and couldn't fulfill it's obligation to play leading to a loss to BCCI which is why it went down like that with broadcasters putting extra pressure too.

Also, in this case anyway most of the revenue is supposed to go to the CA anyway at it's their home series.

 

[Cevno]

India's tour match with CA 11 has been postponed to Saturday for the time being.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

But maybe some of them actually wanna play as they might feel it will help them cope better or as a tribute to him. Many cricketers have continued playing when a family member died in a few days or when a family member was terribly sick even.Yeah, this happened on the field but I dunno how sitting at home and thinking about it for months will help a professional sportsmen either when they ultimately will have to carry one at some time?

As i said first test can maybe be cancelled especially considering timing of the funeral, but you cannot now stop cricket for months and cancel the series.

If others who might have been closer to him or playing that match still aren't in position to play and not at their best they will ask for a break themselves and doubt the CA would force them like that. I agree there is implied pressure for professional cricketers but you cannot assume they all don't wanna play either. And if you do then for how long?


As i said before this type of tragic incident has happened before in several sports and most continued in days. From F1 to cycling to Football.

Edit - Also what Greg said.

I'm sure some of the players wouldn't have a problem with playing - but at the same I'm sure none of those players would want force others into a difficult decision. Since it's a very significant portion of the players it seems pointless to even offer the option of the first test, it'd be a waste of time.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

India's tour match with CA 11 has been postponed to Saturday for the time being.

Sensible decision. Hope whatever happens on the tour both sides play it in a good spirit and hard and fair.

 

[Spikey]

The tour match was cancelled, as have grade matches in Sydney

 

[cnerd123]

If enough players say they don't want to play, then I'd prefer the Test be cancelled instead of having a India vs Aus 2nd XI test. Not only will it be of poor quality, but the absence of the Aus players will just be a reminder of the tragedy.

 

[howardj]

The tour match was cancelled, as has grade matches in Sydney

Grade matches in Sydney?

 

[Burgey]

If enough players say they don't want to play, then I'd prefer the Test be cancelled instead of having a India vs Aus 2nd XI test. Not only will it be of poor quality, but the absence of the Aus players will just be a reminder of the tragedy.

They'd probably still win tbf.

 

[Spikey]

If test cricket was all action, they'd be no problem playing the test match. But it's not. The reality is, for long stretches of the test match, a lot of the guys will effectively be stuck in the dressing room with little access to the outside world. No phones, no internet. It doesn't exactly strike me as the best place to mourn the death of a team-mate

 

[duffer]

They'd probably still win tbf.

Heh.

 

[Valer]

If enough players say they don't want to play, then I'd prefer the Test be cancelled instead of having a India vs Aus 2nd XI test. Not only will it be of poor quality, but the absence of the Aus players will just be a reminder of the tragedy.

This is probably a better call than my initial reaction to playing.

 

[howardj]

Having thought about it, I think the best thing to do is to cancel the Gabba Test (in any case it may coincide with the funeral)

Then get back out there at Adelaide on Phil's adopted home ground, perhaps naming him 12th man

 

[Jono]

There is no right or wrong on this, but ultimately I think the players should make the decision. And I hope whatever decision they make is respected.

 

[cnerd123]

They'd probably still win tbf.

Heh. Nice to be able to get a chuckle amidst the sadness.