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*Official* Pakistan v Australia in UAE 2014

Blocky

Banned
It's a pretty **** tactic and one that most club captains I've played with wouldn't even attempt. Allan Border came out and said it was a horrible tactic so I don't see why you're getting stuck into SteveNZ over having issues with it.
 

Blocky

Banned
Couldnt read your post Properly because it Was sent from so far down the rankings ladder.
Don't worry, the way Australian cricket has been declining recently you'll be low enough to see it.... even worse when you consider you have five times our population too.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
If by exercised you mean worked up, it's rubbish. Don't try and pretend you've turned the corner as a cricketing nation under a brave new leader when you get down 1-0 in a series, make two suspect changes then get to 80-1 and stick a bloody man behind the bowlers arm.

Granted I didn't see the previous 26 overs but he wasn't there as a catcher was he? He was there under an approach of 'okay, we've got little or no idea how to get you out, so we'll stick a man in your line of sight and see if that'll harm you watching the ball'

Never mind setting better fields, building pressure, picking someone in your squad that is actually capable of doing that.

Australia have a stated aim of being #1 in the world. I'm sure there are more sustainable ways of becoming that side than adopting a tactic that is an equivalent of sneezing in someone's backswing on the 18th hole
Nah he was there as a catcher.

If I were the batsman I would've complained though.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
It's a non issue mainly because of the position the game is in. Clearly Pakistan wasn't too affected. Having fielders behind the bowlers arm is clearly not in the spirit of the game but if my team is running away with the game and the first series win v Australia in ages, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
The batsman did complain IIRC, and Nigel Llong told him to basically get on with it.

I've seen Clarke use this kind of fielder before, again for the same situation where the batsman is repeatedly hitting the ball dead straight and beating mid-on.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Don't worry, the way Australian cricket has been declining recently you'll be low enough to see it.... even worse when you consider you have five times our population too.
Youre exactly right. Hovering between number one and number two is such a blight on australian cricket.

That point would stand if NZ could break it into the top 5...ever
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Don't worry, the way Australian cricket has been declining recently you'll be low enough to see it.... even worse when you consider you have five times our population too.
Youre exactly right. Hovering between number one and number two is such a blight on australian cricket.

That point would stand if NZ could break it into the top 5...ever
Speaking of trivial debates... please, quit it, both of you.
 

Blocky

Banned
Youre exactly right. Hovering between number one and number two is such a blight on australian cricket.

That point would stand if NZ could break it into the top 5...ever
That's just the flaw in the rankings, three years of being utterly **** in test cricket didn't erase the history created with Warne and Mcgrath - the fact that you hit England when all of their players were in decline and South Africa when they decided to treat Johnson like he was a ghost/phantom just prolonged the inevitable.

ps.. Hobart, 2011.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Right, so you're both going to sit here and tell me that guy was there As a run-scoring position.That despite a right arm over bowler operating, a guy 20m directly behind him was the best option for that fielder. Right. I'd have been better to pretend I had watched so you couldn't pull the 'well then you can't comment' BS.

Seeing I wasn't watching, how long did they persist with it?

It's not cricket's version of discussing world peace I'll grant you that. Not worth a discussion though? Would have caused barely a ripple if an Ashes touring team did it?
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
That's just the flaw in the rankings, three years of being utterly **** in test cricket didn't erase the history created with Warne and Mcgrath - the fact that you hit England when all of their players were in decline and South Africa when they decided to treat Johnson like he was a ghost/phantom just prolonged the inevitable.

ps.. Hobart, 2011.
You heard the moderator. Toddle off and talk about your pub competition or park or whatever but also referred to as the first class system
 
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SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
That's just the flaw in the rankings, three years of being utterly **** in test cricket didn't erase the history created with Warne and Mcgrath - the fact that you hit England when all of their players were in decline and South Africa when they decided to treat Johnson like he was a ghost/phantom just prolonged the inevitable.

ps.. Hobart, 2011.

Give it a rest. Seriously.
 

Blocky

Banned
You heard the moderator. Toddle off and talk about your pub competition or park or whatever it is aka The NZ First Class system
Sensitive wee sausage.. must be pretty sad when that park competition produces a side that beat yours. But yes, lets obey daddy and stop the banter.


As for SteveNZ, it's called banter mate, you're a fast bowler, you should understand it.... but for once I do agree with you about the conjecture this would've raised had either side in the Ashes done a similar field setting, and I also wonder what would happen if you had that field setting with Mitchell Johnson bowling short at a batsmans ribs how long it'd take before it'd become an incident.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Right, so you're both going to sit here and tell me that guy was there As a run-scoring position.That despite a right arm over bowler operating, a guy 20m directly behind him was the best option for that fielder. Right. I'd have been better to pretend I had watched so you couldn't pull the 'well then you can't comment' BS.

Seeing I wasn't watching, how long did they persist with it?

It's not cricket's version of discussing world peace I'll grant you that. Not worth a discussion though? Would have caused barely a ripple if an Ashes touring team did it?
They persisted with it essentially so long as Siddle was bowling (I definitely saw it after tea as well) because he was repeatedly getting pinged down the ground in his quest to get an LBW. It didn't work in that sense, but it did at least force Azhar to play squarer if he wanted to score off those sorts of deliveries - again, if you'd watched, you'd have known this, and you'd have something substantive to get worked up over as opposed to one screenshot.

As for the last red herring, I don't know and neither do you. I'd have hoped not given that, as I said, this is an amazingly trivial debate.
 

Flem274*

123/5
You heard the moderator. Toddle off and talk about your pub competition or park or whatever but also referred to as the first class system
that's the future George Pie Pub Crawl you're badmouthing thank you very much. Off to your oh so serious first class system with you.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Sensitive wee sausage.. must be pretty sad when that park competition produces a side that beat yours. But yes, lets obey daddy and stop the banter.


As for SteveNZ, it's called banter mate, you're a fast bowler, you should understand it.... but for once I do agree with you about the conjecture this would've raised had either side in the Ashes done a similar field setting, and I also wonder what would happen if you had that field setting with Mitchell Johnson bowling short at a batsmans ribs how long it'd take before it'd become an incident.
If johnson Was bowling at his Ribs there wouldnt be any point in having a fielder there. Ffs. He wasnt wearing a sombrero and doing star jumps.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Sensitive wee sausage.. must be pretty sad when that park competition produces a side that beat yours. But yes, lets obey daddy and stop the banter.


As for SteveNZ, it's called banter mate, you're a fast bowler, you should understand it.... but for once I do agree with you about the conjecture this would've raised had either side in the Ashes done a similar field setting, and I also wonder what would happen if you had that field setting with Mitchell Johnson bowling short at a batsmans ribs how long it'd take before it'd become an incident.
If you had that fielding position with Johnson bowling bouncers on a bouncy deck you'd probably need to have your brain examined because that would make no sense whatsoever.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
I think the laws need to be updated.

There's a sight screen for a reason. I also think the fielder being 2m either side would have been good enough to implement the same plan.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
that's the future George Pie Pub Crawl you're badmouthing thank you very much. Off to your oh so serious first class system with you.
Secretly jealous we didnt get sponsored by mrs macs pies and got some **** weetbix or whatever the **** we have now instead
 

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