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***Official*** India in England 2014
- Thread starter Daemon
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Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I got to see very little of the last two tests. Series has finished so quickly.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
10-11 Ashes was similar but the Aussies generally put a fight up in their second innings when beaten. And although that was three innings victories versus two here, England's margin of victory at Southampton was greater than our second innings total.
But obviously the draw there had 517-1
EDIT - wouldn't you say the home Ashes last year were closer, even I'd not in terms of score?
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
The gap between the two sides was obviously a lot smaller, but remember how badly Australia got beaten at Lords. The series was basically over by then. In 10/11 England were never behind in the series; maybe I'm being a bit of a hindsight expert but Perth was a bit of a freak occurrence.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
On the other hand, with two to go in 10-11 the series was in the balance whereas I never saw us not winning after Southampton though maybe that was just me
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I guess Cab's argument is that it doesn't make it a close series.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Maijly because of the quality of your bowlers. Australia's batting was an absolute joke last summer.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Good at OT and The Oval iirc
Furball
Evil Scotsman
They get no points for remembering how to bat when the series was gone. While things were up for grabs they spent all series collapsing ridiculously when the game was in the balance. Aside from Old Trafford which was a road.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Can't say I agree. They had another awful collapse at Durham and would have lost at the Oval if Clarke hadn't wasted so much time.
Johnson's spell at Brisbane was what got Australia the whitewash. England were shellshocked by it and never recovered, and after their collapse at Adelaide tbere was never going to any other result than 5-0.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
They played a lot of the cricket in the last three tests. Pretty much all of it bar that collapse at Durham tbh.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Vic orthdox said before the series that he reckoned their ultimate aim was to win the second series. Gave them a reason to keep going.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Really would have been nice for England to have had a least one hard fought win in the series. Don't get me wrong the turn around has been great and all and it's nice to be back in wining ways.......just not sure how much we can take from these last 3 tests. From the first session of the last 2 we've been flogging a dead dog and playing with absolutely no pressure at all........credit to our bowlers for getting us into that position but it would have been nice to see how the team responded when it wasn't going all their way.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
I actually remember an Aussie at my cricket club before the home series saying he didn't care if Australia lost the first 7 tests if they won the last 3. Personally I think holding the Ashes is a bit overrated in a literal sense, but it obviously means a lot to some people.