***Official*** South Africa in Sri Lanka 2014

[akilana]

Every time Steyn has got the ball to reverse, South Africa has been caught tampering.

Not true.

 

[silentstriker]

Pretty hilarious. I can imagine the outrage if it was a Pakistani team getting caught repeatedly. Surprised the penalty doesn't include bans and such considering how big a deal people make it out to be.

 

[silentstriker]

"We try to play the game in the right spirit. It`s not something we set out to do. Maybe it`s something we should cut out completely.

Maybe, huh?

 

[TT Boy]

Every time Steyn has got the ball to reverse, South Africa has been caught tampering.

South Africa have only been caught twice, this test and the one in the UAE last year but they have probably been working on this for some time and on these two occasions made the mistake of getting caught.

I mean Waqar Younis was only found guilty of ball tampering for the first time in 2000. Eleven years after debuting and terrorising batsman with reverse swing.

 

[Swingpanzee]

Can one expect Philander to be team-banned and thus not play the next test?

 

[TT Boy]

Can one expect Philander to be team-banned and thus not play the next test?

No, he has already been dealt with. 75% match fee fine.

 

[Dan]

Cue every Indian player bar Dhoni lining up Ishant's run up with banana peels.

To give Sharma credit where it's due, he genuinely does not seem to break. Ever.

He's the 1980s coal-fired, steam-powered mechanical marvel that keeps on going and going and going in the face of far more efficient but less cost-effective (and higher maintenance) computerised models.

 

[viriya]

To give Sharma credit where it's due, he genuinely does not seem to break. Ever.

He's the 1980s coal-fired, steam-powered mechanical marvel that keeps on going and going and going in the face of far more efficient but less cost-effective (and higher maintenance) computerised models.

shoo

 

[Flem274*]

Everyone ball tampers. South Africa just suck at getting away with it.

Reminds me of when Chris Pringle admitted to ball tampering against Pakistan. When NZ finally got their hands on an old ball used by Pakistan before the ball boys did they studied how Pakistan were doing it and copied. Pringle especially got crazy swing in the nets so he became their go to bowler for the next match. Then they fessed up in the press conference and not a single **** was given.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Scratching the ball is such a non isue, its the equivalent of quicks running on the pitch. So many of the greats have benefited from it, quicks these days must feel hard done by.

 

[silentstriker]

Well if it's a non issue, they should allow it. Otherwise, clearly some people are doing it to get an advantage over their opponent. SA did well with the ball after it was tampered so if I were SL and I wasn't ball tampering as well, I'd be pissed off. And start doing it next match. It was clearly a result that came about as a result of cheating.


Honestly I don't really care that much about the topic but if it isn't allowed, the penalty should be way bigger. And if it is, then fine, and just allow it and get on with it. Clearly those who've used this method in the past have testified as to the immense advantage it offers.

 

[OverratedSanity]

South Africa tried to pressurize tensports to not air the ball tampering footage. Leave the bullying to the big 3, you wimps

Sri Lanka v South Africa, 1st Test, Galle, 5th day : SLC ensure tampering footage aired | Cricket News | Sri Lanka v South Africa | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Look, throughout the history of the game every other great quick has benefited from ball tampering, which includes the like of Hadlee and Lillee, whether it be scratching, scuffing, picking the seam, or bouncing the ball on the rough. I think it would be fair to say that none of the great Pak bowlers would have anywhere near as good a reputation without them have making conditions a bit more favourable. Its so easy to do, most people get away with it and its been done since day dot, so why not allow it. A better system would be one where bowlers could rough up the ball how they wanted, with umpires being able to change the ball if it gets silly.

Anything beats this change the ball every 10 overs because you're unable to get much assistance later on bull****.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

ICC would give a harsh punishment if what VP did was such a big issue.

Haven't seen the footage. But I remember the faf incident and faf admitted guilt to escape harder punishment guilty or not.

 

[Prince EWS]

ICC would give a harsh punishment if what VP did was such a big issue.

Couldn't you defend absolutely any ICC decision with this, regardless of what it is?

 

[Flem274*]

Look, throughout the history of the game every other great quick has benefited from ball tampering, which includes the like of Hadlee and Lillee, whether it be scratching, scuffing, picking the seam, or bouncing the ball on the rough. I think it would be fair to say that none of the great Pak bowlers would have anywhere near as good a reputation without them have making conditions a bit more favourable. Its so easy to do, most people get away with it and its been done since day dot, so why not allow it. A better system would be one where bowlers could rough up the ball how they wanted, with umpires being able to change the ball if it gets silly.

Anything beats this change the ball every 10 overs because you're unable to get much assistance later on bull****.

Haha yeah that's the new ball tampering and New Zealand are the best in the world at getting the ball changed until they find one that swings miles.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

Couldn't you defend absolutely any ICC decision with this, regardless of what it is?

Sure any company or business should have reviews and systems in place.

If a complaint is given that maybe the punishment should be more severe it is something they should be able to look into it. If it is deemed to be a serious offense on a certain scale then the criteria for punishment should be changed in the future.

For now it is merely a slap on the wrist because maybe the punishment does not have to be that severe.

 

[Maximas]

Well Matthews seemed to suggest that the tampering did indeed influence the match - even if it wasn't huge, because he thought the ball reversed more on the 3rd day than on the 4th evening or final day. If we assume the tampering is the main reason for this, then the ICC probably ought to get their act together and get a proper punishment sorted for things like this given the deterrent isn't strong enough and it's providing an illegal advantage, still not the reason we lost this test though

 

[social]

Sure any company or business should have reviews and systems in place.

If a complaint is given that maybe the punishment should be more severe it is something they should be able to look into it. If it is deemed to be a serious offense on a certain scale then the criteria for punishment should be changed in the future.

For now it is merely a slap on the wrist because maybe the punishment does not have to be that severe.

Tell that to Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani

Those guys were INFINITELY better bowlers than Philander and have suffered ridicule for years

Big Vern and his mates got off incredibly lightly and he should be spending a long time on the sidelines (not that it would harm SA as he has been exposed)

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Tell that to Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani

Those guys were INFINITELY better bowlers than Philander and have suffered ridicule for years

Big Vern and his mates got off incredibly lightly and he should be spending a long time on the sidelines (not that it would harm SA as he has been exposed)

And then the likes of Lillee, Hadlee, Marshall and virtually every other bowler who "worked the ball" a bit got of scot free.