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***Official*** South Africa in Sri Lanka 2014

91Jmay

International Coach
Why do the Lankan posters rate Thirimanne so much? Tailenders career average (13 tests hardly a tiny sample size either) and looks hopeless (he's probably not that good) against any decent seam.

Just as I post this he gets out playing that stupid open face poke again. Not buying him at all.
 
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OverratedSanity

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Steyn's on 370 wickets. It seems like only a year ago he was on 300. He's maintaining a rate of 5 wickets a test even with Philander, Morkel and previously Kallis and Ntini in the side. Utterly ridiculous.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Horrible behaviour from Morkel there after the review came back for the Chandimal decision. Hope he loses his match fee for that.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Steyn's at 370 now?!? ****, that's gone quick. What a bowler he is.

Chandiguns failing to make consistent runs makes me sad; really hope he can turn it around soon. If he'd stuck with Mathews and Angelo pulled out another one of his insanely special knocks, this still could have been interesting. Now it looks like a more-or-less foregone conclusion; though Dilruwan is capable with the bat, the tail don't inspire confidence and 200+ runs is a long, long way away.
 

Dan

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I know it's pretty irrelevant due to sample size issues (10 Tests), but before this game, Angelo was averaging 80 as captain, with 3 of his 4 career hundreds. He's been immense since taking over. Genuinely becoming one of the better batsmen in the world.
 

Swingpanzee

International Regular
Just the session SA dreamt of, every bowler was pretty good, even Tahir kept the runs down in general. The consistent pressure exerted by Morkel, Philander and Steyn led to Sanga throwing his wicket away.

On a side-note, Chandimal was given out because there was no conclusive evidence to overrule the on-field call, right? What about run-outs? Why do batsmen get the benefit of doubt in those cases?
 

OverratedSanity

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I know it's pretty irrelevant due to sample size issues (10 Tests), but before this game, Angelo was averaging 80 as captain, with 3 of his 4 career hundreds. He's been immense since taking over. Genuinely becoming one of the better batsmen in the world.
Nah, he's just in a purple patch. Let's see how he goes when batting isn't so easy :ph34r:
 

Dan

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Nah, he's just in a purple patch. Let's see how he goes when batting isn't so easy :ph34r:
Touché :p

Maybe he is in a purple patch and will revert to mediocrity -- it's entirely possible. I personally feel he's got the temperament, drive and ability to become a very, very good Test batsman. That's the thing, we're constantly making educated guesses about the future. There is every possibility we'll (or, in my minority of one case, I'll) be wrong.
 

Flametree

International 12th Man
Just the session SA dreamt of, every bowler was pretty good, even Tahir kept the runs down in general. The consistent pressure exerted by Morkel, Philander and Steyn led to Sanga throwing his wicket away.

On a side-note, Chandimal was given out because there was no conclusive evidence to overrule the on-field call, right? What about run-outs? Why do batsmen get the benefit of doubt in those cases?
This is one of the issues with DRS which annoys me. I think this was a bad decision, and should have been fixed. Rather than the third ump just saying "I can't tell, so out", there should be a conversation.

Third ump : Why did you give that out?
Onfield ump : I think he gloved it.
Third ump : Well, the only contact I can see which might have caused a deflection or a noise is ball on arm. It may have brushed the glove en route, I can't tell. If you gave it on noise or movement rather than because you're sure you saw it hit the glove, then you might want to change the decision. If you're certain you saw it hit the glove, then I can't overturn it.

A comparable situation is where an lbw shout is turned down, because the onfield umpire thinks it hit outside the line. Replays show it hit in-line, but was only just clipping the stumps. I believe it would currently go "umps call, so stays not out", when it should go

Third ump : Why did you give that not out?
Onfield ump : Hitting outside the line.
Third ump : It hit in line. Would you give it out now?
If the answer is yes, then the fact that the next bit is "umps call" can now go in the fielding team's favour.

Basically I want the two umpires to work together to get the right decision, rather than just apply a "protocol".
 

Swingpanzee

International Regular
This is one of the issues with DRS which annoys me. I think this was a bad decision, and should have been fixed. Rather than the third ump just saying "I can't tell, so out", there should be a conversation.

Third ump : Why did you give that out?
Onfield ump : I think he gloved it.
Third ump : Well, the only contact I can see which might have caused a deflection or a noise is ball on arm. It may have brushed the glove en route, I can't tell. If you gave it on noise or movement rather than because you're sure you saw it hit the glove, then you might want to change the decision. If you're certain you saw it hit the glove, then I can't overturn it.

A comparable situation is where an lbw shout is turned down, because the onfield umpire thinks it hit outside the line. Replays show it hit in-line, but was only just clipping the stumps. I believe it would currently go "umps call, so stays not out", when it should go

Third ump : Why did you give that not out?
Onfield ump : Hitting outside the line.
Third ump : It hit in line. Would you give it out now?
If the answer is yes, then the fact that the next bit is "umps call" can now go in the fielding team's favour.

Basically I want the two umpires to work together to get the right decision, rather than just apply a "protocol".
Yeah, it's weird to say the least. I remember when KP was given out in Old Trafford, there was nothing on Hotspot to support the fact that there was nick but he was given out based on the on-field call. Also Root at Perth.

SL are gone.
 
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