Round of 16 matches

[GIMH]

I don't really understand what you mean. Saving your best taker for sudden death would be really stupid. But as long as the five who take the penalties are the five best takers, nothing else matters, except for psychology.

You say nothing else matters except for psychology but penalty shootouts are driven by psychology. Why do you think we always lose them?

Example, Ryan Taylor never missed a penalty for us except in shootouts

The order does matter on that basis and it would be a bit daft to assume that whether people score or not isn't affected by what else has happened so far.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I don't like angry Smittens.

Haha Natey-poo I'm not mad. Just cbf using emoticons haha.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'm an old man

You only just turned 30 though, you're not that much older than me....








oh no I'm an old man toooooo :head-a-splode:

 

[GIMH]

BBC Sport - World Cup 2014: Arjen Robben apologises for dive against Mexico

 

[Nate]

haha natey-poo i'm not mad. Just cbf using emoticons haha.

stop yelling at me

 

[Furball]

Best penalty taker should always take 2nd or 3rd imo.

3rd or 4th. They're the real pressure penalties.

 

[Uppercut]

Actually yeah just had that moment when someone points out something that should be really obvious that you had just never realised. Yeah Uppercut is right but psychological factors still play a part of course.

Now you too can bore the **** out of everyone in the pub at the next shoot-out.

 

[Furball]

When are people going to get outraged about goalkeepers cheating at penalty shootouts? Or is it only when the flair players go down a bit easy that people get their knickers in a twist?

 

[Ikki]

Dive to me, and if I were the ref I'd want more than this to give a team a penalty when it's basically over.

 

[Uppercut]

It's a textbook example of where not making contact doesn't necessarily mean it's not a penalty though.

I mean, he clearly dives, but when Marquez plants his foot directly in his path it's a foul anyway.

 

[Spark]

If he hadn't dived, Marquez would have made contact and we wouldn't really be having this discussion tbh

 

[OverratedSanity]

Can't for the life of me understand why people are still saying it wasn't a penalty and that there wasn't contact. There clearly was contact imo. Marquez clipped Robben's foot. The theatrically, while avoidable, shouldn't excuse a dumb challenge and a legitimate penalty claim. 100% pen for me.

 

[Agent TBY]

Tbf that was the second time Marquez stuck his foot out the exact same way in the area. There would've been no complaints had Robben gone down earlier in the second half instead of shrugging it off because he thought he had a chance to score.

He took advantage the second time around since he was running away from the goal and there were defenders closing in all around him. Shows what a **** he is, but there's nothing terribly wrong about what he did imo.

 

[Ikki]

It's a textbook example of where not making contact doesn't necessarily mean it's not a penalty though.

I mean, he clearly dives, but when Marquez plants his foot directly in his path it's a foul anyway.

It's pretty tedious to rest on that IMO. I'm in the group that doesn't think contact is necessary for a penalty, especially if it is clear the tackle is obstructing the player from being able to play on or go for goal but for me that's not really the case here. Marquez was barely in his path bar his foot which really doesn't make contact. Robben only has to continue his stride and he'd not have touched Marquez as his legs would have went over Marquez's foot. The rest of Marquez's body wasn't in the way to have impeded him. I could understand the argument if Robben hadn't changed direction, but he did so before the tackle was even made. For him to have continued into Marquez would mean he would have had to change direction and run the opposite way he knocked the ball. That's not what he was doing.

It's like pretending that the cone below impeded you, which it only can if it actually makes contact with you. Otherwise, you step over. But if you are of the opinion there is contact, IMO, that's a more legitimate point. It's a weird one for me personally. From reading around I'm in the small minority but I just don't see it nor do I think the law should be implemented like that even if it is. There should be a clear impediment.

 

[Tangles]

It was a soft penalty and I wouldn't have given it. The theatrical dive would have been a factor against for me. Basically the ref awarded it to even up given the other 2 calls he didn't give. Dumb defending. Covering defense and moving away from goal. Plus lunging in vs Robben is the height of stupidity.

 

[Uppercut]

The worst decision of the match was the penalty Mexico didn't get in the first half when one of their players got booted in the head in the box. Outside the box you literally get it 100 times out of 100, and it's far more dangerous than most tackles that get straight red cards. Incredible that it wasn't given.

 

[Stapel]

The worst decision of the match was the penalty Mexico didn't get in the first half when one of their players got booted in the head in the box. Outside the box you literally get it 100 times out of 100, and it's far more dangerous than most tackles that get straight red cards. Incredible that it wasn't given.

It's interesting you come up with this, as it hardly got mentioned at all in Dutch media. It was a pretty dangerous piece of defending. Yet, if a defender plays the ball, most referees won't give a penalty, even if it was a 100% foul outside the box. One of those funny things in football.....



On the Robben penalty: A lot of theatre, too much for my liking, but most defenitely not a dive in the proper sense of the word. I've seen far, far worse. Robben should have been given a penalty in the first half (that was really the worst decision imho; how was it missed?) and was close to one earlier in the 2nd half. Anyone in the world of football knows that semi-fouls add up. I can't say I agree with it, but it is another one of those funny things in football.

 

[Cabinet96]

Grecian to rage at that call.

 

[GIMH]

Rooting for Nigeria and Algeria tonight but also looking forwards to a France-Germany quarter final

 

[GIMH]

Grecian to rage at that call.

Which one?

Whoa what a save! Sledger to give it 5/10