***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

[hendrix]

jesus, Shane Watson is meant to be an example to follow?

 

[Kippax]

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February 20 2014 11:48 AM
Hi Jimmy. Do I remember correctly you won the 2008 national schoolboy speed gun challenge by bowling a beamer in the final at the Basin?

February 20 2014 11:49 AM
Yep that is correct. The ball almost went over the back of the nets into the crowd. It was pretty fortunate actually because it may have killed an old lady who was seated there. 6 years later and I was out there playing for NZ, who would've thought?

Ah JimmyGS. Always using his cricket-watching experience to get ahead of the game.

 

[Wright]

Barring injury, the only way Neesh will play against the Windies is if they decide he's a better bowler than Wagner, and that's just not happening.

We do need a spinner in the West Indies and I don't mind the Sodhi selection. If he continues to fail spectacularly, fine, drop him. You have to give him a proper run though, and a proper run doesn't include playing India on green NZ wickets.

He did reasonably well in Bangladesh (readoorly but showed enough potential) so there are plenty of reasons to think he'll continue improving in WI.

Could Neesham possibly replace Anderson at number 6? or Watling at 6 and Neesham at 7? Thats if Andersons form warranted him being dropped or he was injured.

 

[hendrix]

I think even if Anderson scores 4 ducks in a row they'll play him for the whole WI series.

 

[Blocky]

Sodhi won't have many more chances left if he doesn't start putting performances in, which he won't.

****ing horrible that they're blindly selecting him in the 11 when he's not conributing.

 

[hendrix]

yeah he's not likely to succeed but they have to give him more opportunities before they can categorically state that.

 

[lockton2skipper]

on the evidence of the wellington test Neesham looks a far better batsman technically than Anderson so will probably in time end up as a top six test batsman. for the short term NZ need a spinner in the side for the tour to west indies , weather its Sodhi , Patel or who ever Wagner still needs to play to bowl the hard overs when the ball is worn, he is such a workhorse type of a bowler.

 

[hendrix]

on the evidence of the wellington test Neesham looks a far better batsman technically than Anderson.

disagree completely.

 

[Blocky]

disagree completely.

also, there's no chance that tonight hendrix is responsible for another ****ing child thank ****ing christ. jesus guys, wear condoms and ****.

Neesham is a very technically correct striker - Anderson isn't. Anderson however has one hell of an eye, great timing and a lot more strength. I'd say Anderson would be the one more likely to turn into an actual batsman at some point with those raw assets.

 

[Howsie]

Neesham is a very technically correct striker - Anderson isn't. Anderson however has one hell of an eye, great timing and a lot more strength. I'd say Anderson would be the one more likely to turn into an actual batsman at some point with those raw assets.

lol, "turn into a actual batsman"

Also am I the only one that doesn't really rate Neesham's bowling that highly? Aside from his pace I really don't think he has much going for him. With Anderson at least you know he'll get the ball to move about.

 

[Blocky]

lol, "turn into a actual batsman"

Also am I the only one that doesn't really rate Neesham's bowling that highly? Aside from his pace I really don't think he has much going for him. With Anderson at least you know he'll get the ball to move about.

Neesham doesn't have the off days that Corey has with landing it and getting the radar right. A lot of the reason people find Neesham hard to face is that he gets good lift off the wicket and bowls in the late 130s.

Anderson in five years will probably bowl about the same amount of overs as Williamson in tests.

 

[Smudge]

Still in Dunedin, Jono?

 

[Hurricane]

Hmm I will give my two cents

Forward Defence - Give it to Anderson - Neesham tends to play it from the crease
Back foot defence - Anderson's is better
Cover drive - Neesham is far more competent
Pull shot - Anderson
On drives - Anderson
Temperament - ? *
* Anderson batted like it was a minefield in the 1st dig and that the only option was to do a Haddin and smack it around it. He did not look very good at all. But against the Windies and in the 1st test vs India and against Bangers he looked very mature. I will call it a draw on temperament and just hope that Anderson's last display was an aberration.

Overall I give the edge to Anderson.

 

[Smudge]

Still in Dunedin, Jono?

 

[hendrix]

Neesham is a very technically correct striker - Anderson isn't. Anderson however has one hell of an eye, great timing and a lot more strength. I'd say Anderson would be the one more likely to turn into an actual batsman at some point with those raw assets.

I think Anderson is pretty well aware of where his weakness lie in that he's pretty much shelved his offside game, especially driving in test cricket. I'm sure he's working on the cover drives and cuts but it's probably fair to say he's currently a more limited batsman than Neesham, at least at the test level.

I think Anderson will overtake him though. It's a pretty good characteristic to know your weaknesses like that.

 

[Howsie]

Neesham doesn't have the off days that Corey has with landing it and getting the radar right. A lot of the reason people find Neesham hard to face is that he gets good lift off the wicket and bowls in the late 130s.

Anderson in five years will probably bowl about the same amount of overs as Williamson in tests.

Neesham is a better bowler obvs, I just don't really rate it. He's mid 130's and doesn't really do anything with the ball. People may indeed say he's hard to face but when you're bowling every fourth ball into the pads your not exactly going to build up the pressure either. As I said earlier at least Anderson moves the ball in the air, even if he's 5k's slower. If he wasn't so injury prone he would've made one hell of a bowler IMO (as a batting all rounder anyway) As it is he'll probably never realise that potential but even now he's doing a bloody good job. And I still think he has room for improvement with it too, I mean this is pretty much his first full season of bowling ever.

 

[Howsie]

Neesham doesn't have the off days that Corey has with landing it and getting the radar right. A lot of the reason people find Neesham hard to face is that he gets good lift off the wicket and bowls in the late 130s.

Anderson in five years will probably bowl about the same amount of overs as Williamson in tests.

Neesham is a better bowler obvs, I just don't really rate it. He's mid 130's and doesn't really do anything with the ball. People may indeed say he's hard to face but when you're bowling every fourth ball into the pads your not exactly going to build up the pressure either. As I said earlier at least Anderson moves the ball in the air, even if he's 5k's slower. If he wasn't so injury prone he would've made one hell of a bowler IMO (as a batting all rounder anyway) As it is he'll probably never realise that potential but even now he's doing a bloody good job. And I still think he has room for improvement with it too, I mean this is pretty much his first full season of bowling ever.

 

[Prince EWS]

Also am I the only one that doesn't really rate Neesham's bowling that highly? Aside from his pace I really don't think he has much going for him. With Anderson at least you know he'll get the ball to move about.

Nah I agree. Neesham has a lot more potential to be a proper frontline bowler if that's the road he wants to go down than Anderson for numerous reasons but at this point in time I don't think he's particualrly close to being good enough for that. Anderson's quite good at his role as the fifth bowler; moreso than Neesham would be in that role for mine. He can keep it tight and he can challenge good batsmen from time to time with his movement.

Unlike on the domestic scene, Test batsmen aren't going to be beaten for pace alone very often by someone bowling in the late 130s and aside from that, there's not a lot to Neesham's bowling right now. He doesn't bowl jaffas and he doesn't maintain pressure. I really like him as a cricketer and you can certainly get away with it in the role he's playing now but I don't think he's quite Test standard yet in either discipline.

 

[NZTailender]

He reminds me a little of Oram (Neesham) bowling wise, though Oram could move it off the pitch more. Wouldn't be entirely bad if Neesham ended up being able to do what Oram was able to do with the ball- not overly express, keep it tight, move it a bit, tie up an end and let the others do the harder yards.

 

[SteveNZ]

Neesham doesn't have the off days that Corey has with landing it and getting the radar right. A lot of the reason people find Neesham hard to face is that he gets good lift off the wicket and bowls in the late 130s.

Anderson in five years will probably bowl about the same amount of overs as Williamson in tests.

Not sure that's correct. Jimmy probably doesn't spray line as much but he showed in the ODIs he still struggles to find a length. Still a superior bowler to Corey, no doubt as when he does find a length it's hit hard and at a good clip. As I said in an earlier post, if he plays as a fourth seamer it'll be in seamer-friendly conditions (probably) and he'll be very effective. Over time he'll learn to bowl consistently to better players, and be a major asset.