***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

[ohnoitsyou]

Second best technique in the country

 

[vandem]

Huh? The Dhoni no-ball dismissal, you don't think there's a outside chance India would have got the 40-50 runs had he been recalled for that?

Huh? The Anderson lbw dismissal, you don't think there's a outside chance NZ would have got another 40-50 runs, had the 3rd umpire been allowed to recall him?

We can play the what-if game infinitum if you want ...

 

[Zinzan]

Agree with Bahnz,
NZ had huge Andrrson and Baz stand sawn off, India's biggest first innings stand was courtesy of a shocking non LBW. Crucial moments in the match, but they weren't on the last afternoon ......

Anderson's lbw, Watling's no-ball dismissal etc

Both clearly not out, Dhoni's wasn't

Yup, the luck has swung around, so 1-1 feels right.

I would love to have a crystal ball though to see if this test would have been different had NZ won a toss.

 

[Frost]

Test side for WI

Latham
Astle
KW
Taylor
Baz
Anderson
BJ
Neesh
Wagner
Southee
Boult

Now your just taking tha piss, ,Astle retired years ago and wasnt a test opener enyway.
We will need a specialist spiner in the Wi

 

[Zinzan]

Second best technique in the country

Lol, let's forget he bats 7 or 8, has just 1 FC ton and averages less than 25 in FC cricket shall we?

 

[Bahnz]

Yup, the luck has swung around, so 1-1 feels right.

I would love to have a crystal ball though to see if this test would have been different had NZ won a toss.

My guess given the way we bowled:

IND 260
NZ 240
IND 400
NZ 300

In retrospect we were always going to struggle without Taylor.

 

[Bahnz]

Ian Smith: "He's earned the right..."
Brendon: "YUUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!!"

 

[Flem274*]

so baz has finally earned the right to be aggressive according to smithy

 

[Zinzan]

You don't think there's a chance that Anderson would've scored another 40 or 50 runs if he hadn't been Davised in the the first innings? You don't think India would've skittles for 40 or 50 fewer runs in the first innings if Rahane hadn't survived a plumb lb shout? You don't think NZ might've scored 30 or 40 more runs if Watling hadn't been given out on a no-ball in NZ's second innings?

They are all fair points, but you don't think 1-1 is a fair outcome?

 

[ohnoitsyou]

earned the right to play that way

 

[jonbrooks]

I expect us to lose this one but I want to see some fight. In the last two innings we've capitulated. We're 3 down already and we need McCullum to stand up and take responsibility.

Kudos to India, they've been excellent.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Lol, let's forget he bats 7 or 8, has just 1 FC ton and averages less than 25 in FC cricket shall we?

Tastle to do a reverse Tastle. Sacrificial opener who also happens to be the best spinner in the country

 

[Bahnz]

They are all fair points, but you don't think 1-1 is a fair outcome?

I never said that. My point was that New Zealand weren't "a tad fortunate" to win the first test.

 

[Zinzan]

Stroke Latham

 

[BackFootPunch]

Gotta retain Ruds I reckon. Don't think going back to domestic cricket is what he needs at all. Better off working on his flaws in the NZ set up.

When he goes back to domestic he just plays his normal way and gets runs. Similar to Guptill. They both have a technique that allows them to dominate domestic attacks but things get exposed in Tests. That's why everyone is against recalling Guptill - we know he can score FC runs without actually having fixed his technical issues. Rutherford would be the same IMO, so better off leaving him in the national side to sort things out.

 

[Mike5181]

They are all fair points, but you don't think 1-1 is a fair outcome?

Yes, but not for the reasons you've given. "Luck" has nothing to do with it. We were hit with as many bad decisions as they were in the first test and India have played the better cricket in this test regardless of whether or not they won the toss. It's favourable batting conditions at the moment, and India are still winning the contest between bat and ball.

We were the better team in the first test and India have been the better team here, so 1-1 will be a fair result.

 

[Bahnz]

Shots off both feet this morning from SoRR.

 

[Flem274*]

lol at rigor's call on styris

 

[Zinzan]

Gotta retain Ruds I reckon. Don't think going back to domestic cricket is what he needs at all. Better off working on his flaws in the NZ set up.

When he goes back to domestic he just plays his normal way and gets runs. Similar to Guptill. They both have a technique that allows them to dominate domestic attacks but things get exposed in Tests. That's why everyone is against recalling Guptill - we know he can score FC runs without actually having fixed his technical issues. Rutherford would be the same IMO, so better off leaving him in the national side to sort things out.

Guptill's greatest weakness is himself. His top two inches. The guy is one of the biggest mind-*** I can ever remember playing cricket.

 

[Zinzan]

lol at rigor's call on styris

What did he say? I heard something about being a taxi driver from the kitchen