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***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

FaaipDeOiad

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So why the **** does Smith bowl his four front line seamers so little? I don't get it. It'd be one thing if it was a dead pitch or turning square or Australia were ahead by 600 or something, but it's going up and down and the game is still somewhat winnable. Why would he be bowling two half-assed spinners?

Say what you will about Cook and his overbowling of Anderson/Broad in the England home series but at least he'd be bowling his wicket takers and trying to win the game until it was genuinely draw-or-lose status. With a defensive field mind you, but still...

I feel like they all have to be carrying niggles or something or it just makes no sense at all. I mean, Philander hasn't bowled since the 15th over.

edit: Especially annoying because he did it in the first innings too.
 
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benchmark00

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So why the **** does Smith bowl his four front line seamers so little? I don't get it. It'd be one thing if it was a dead pitch or turning square or Australia were ahead by 600 or something, but it's going up and down and the game is still somewhat winnable. Why would he be bowling two half-assed spinners?

Say what you will about Cook and his overbowling of Anderson/Broad in the England home series but at least he'd be bowling his wicket takers and trying to win the game until it was genuinely draw-or-lose status. With a defensive field mind you, but still...

I feel like they all have to be carrying niggles or something or it just makes no sense at all. I mean, Philander hasn't bowled since the 15th over.

edit: Especially annoying because he did it in the first innings too.
Spinners have only really bowled like 6 overs this innings. Don't mind a spinner on (well I do, but whatever) but it shouldn't be at both ends.
 

Spark

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This session has felt really, really long for some reason. Maybe because so many runs have been scored without us really looking ridiculously aggressive.
 

FaaipDeOiad

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Spinners have only really bowled like 6 overs this innings. Don't mind a spinner on (well I do, but whatever) but it shouldn't be at both ends.
Right. A spinner at one end for a bit and rotating the seamers at the other would be fine, especially just for a change or whatever. But bowling them both with four seamers picked in the team just feels like aimless captaincy.
 

Daemon

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So why the **** does Smith bowl his four front line seamers so little? I don't get it. It'd be one thing if it was a dead pitch or turning square or Australia were ahead by 600 or something, but it's going up and down and the game is still somewhat winnable. Why would he be bowling two half-assed spinners?

Say what you will about Cook and his overbowling of Anderson/Broad in the England home series but at least he'd be bowling his wicket takers and trying to win the game until it was genuinely draw-or-lose status. With a defensive field mind you, but still...

I feel like they all have to be carrying niggles or something or it just makes no sense at all. I mean, Philander hasn't bowled since the 15th over.

edit: Especially annoying because he did it in the first innings too.
tbf it's day 3 and SA have been bowling on all 3 days.
 

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Great session Dools and Warner. Top partnership, went from a possible dicey situation to an impossibly strong one.
 

Cabinet96

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I've never rated Smith in terms of managing his quicks so he can bowl them more. Is ridiculous how much we've seen of the likes of Tahir and Peterson on day one of tests in South Africa, despite the home side almost always having four quicks and three world class ones.
 

vic_orthdox

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I've never rated Smith in terms of managing his quicks so he can bowl them more. Is ridiculous how much we've seen of the likes of Tahir and Peterson on day one of tests in South Africa, despite the home side almost always having four quicks and three world class ones.
Can understand it a bit more when you're fourth quick is batting at 4, but McLaren is at 7, use him till he's stuffed, he'll get plenty of rest by the time he has to bat.
 

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Right. A spinner at one end for a bit and rotating the seamers at the other would be fine, especially just for a change or whatever. But bowling them both with four seamers picked in the team just feels like aimless captaincy.
What was poor was bowling them with the fields he had leading up to a break where you want some threatening bowlers on as the batsmen play for tea.

I can only offer 2 possible explanations:

1. They're waiting for it to reverse, so just going into a holding pattern until that occurs.
2. Smith likes to use little breaks to regroup. When the DRS first came in he'd sometimes tactically review decisions just to get his team together like a time out and they'd come out better. Maybe he was just bowling for the tea break and letting his seamers have a big rest and then unleashing.
 
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FaaipDeOiad

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1. They're waiting for it to reverse, so just going into a holding pattern until that occurs.
2. Smith likes to use little breaks to regroup. When the DRS first came in he'd sometimes tactically review decisions just to get his team together like a time out and they'd come out better. Maybe he was just bowling for the tea break and letting his seamers have a big rest and then unleashing.
Yeah, both of which are pretty terrible ideas in the session South Africa really had to win to get back in the match. A session in which Steyn and Philander bowled 4 overs each. That said, maybe there's a fitness issue that isn't apparent from the outside or they are just stuffed from the first innings. But I think that was the time you really had to put it all on the table and try and get a few wickets, because Australia probably have enough already by now and there's still 9 to get.

My feeling is they're playing to a program of preserving the quicks for the rest of the series since it's back-to-back tests.
 

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