Tangles
International Vice-Captain
Lets surround Cook with only yes men. His captaincy is dogs balls and he could do with someone who thinks differently, and aggessive, giving him advice tbh.
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It's Tough Being Me - The Kevin Pietersen Story
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Doesn't this mean that his captaincy is good? Or is that a saying used only in England?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
That is not a typical statement. Far less PR spin or buzz words than usual, they actually specifically mentioned the issues, including 2012!
Not conventional, that's for sure.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Really enjoy Ed Smith's stuff.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Not sure I would agree with this. The use of the word "trust" here is decidedly buzz word-ish. What exactly are they talking about?
The statement basically just says "Trust is good. It's important that everyone has trust. For these reasons KP has been sacked".
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I think it's neither here nor there. It's defensive in tone, and is basically just saying "leave our boys alone" rather than actually addressing the point in question. This was meant to be a statement clarifying why Pietersen had to go, instead what's been produced is an ambiguous ramble, which includes only one or two sentences which make some vague allusion to this point.
They could ill-afford to not mention the whole 2012 business imo, but whilst they mention it, it's not like they cite it as a reason for their decision, they merely use it as a springboard to leap to the defence of Prior, Cook and Flower. The primary purpose of the release just seems to be to defend this lot in the face of the criticism they've faced from some people (ahem). They may as well not have bothered imo, because this statement is just waffle. There is nothing substantive here whatsoever.
They could ill-afford to not mention the whole 2012 business imo, but whilst they mention it, it's not like they cite it as a reason for their decision, they merely use it as a springboard to leap to the defence of Prior, Cook and Flower. The primary purpose of the release just seems to be to defend this lot in the face of the criticism they've faced from some people (ahem). They may as well not have bothered imo, because this statement is just waffle. There is nothing substantive here whatsoever.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Well they said they've signed confidentiality agreements, so if you were looking for a reason, surely you stopped looking the minute that was disclosed...
I am not saying this had substance on what mattered, but rather than a flat bat it was an active defence of itself against criticism and a specific defence of its players (i.e. acknowledging Piers Morgan's ****) A little bit different than the norm to say the least!
I am not saying this had substance on what mattered, but rather than a flat bat it was an active defence of itself against criticism and a specific defence of its players (i.e. acknowledging Piers Morgan's ****) A little bit different than the norm to say the least!
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I feel like you continue to interpret what I am saying as if I think this statement is either good, or meaningful.
What I am saying is the ECB were quite defensive in their statement by acknowledging **** "officials" generally do not get involved in, particularly in an official statement. Singling out names like Prior is unusual. Mentioning that he played a role in the re-integration of KP in 2012 is also not something officials generally do.
I agree they didn't give anything useful except say that their players care about England and the criticisms of its players is unjust. But usually something like this would either ignore the "twitter / rumour" ****, particularly of the sort that involves Prior.
Very rarely is something described as "ironic" as well.
Its just an odd statement is my point. It brings up weird thing that you usually don't bother defending yourself with, or goes into detail (even if people know such things) that are usually never touched. It barely has anything to do with KP, instead defends its players from criticism that you'd usually just ignore.
What I am saying is the ECB were quite defensive in their statement by acknowledging **** "officials" generally do not get involved in, particularly in an official statement. Singling out names like Prior is unusual. Mentioning that he played a role in the re-integration of KP in 2012 is also not something officials generally do.
I agree they didn't give anything useful except say that their players care about England and the criticisms of its players is unjust. But usually something like this would either ignore the "twitter / rumour" ****, particularly of the sort that involves Prior.
Very rarely is something described as "ironic" as well.
Its just an odd statement is my point. It brings up weird thing that you usually don't bother defending yourself with, or goes into detail (even if people know such things) that are usually never touched. It barely has anything to do with KP, instead defends its players from criticism that you'd usually just ignore.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I guess it is somewhat unusual. But the feeling I get is that they felt really under the cosh from all the furore this sparked off, and felt the need to be seen to be doing something. As someone said above, it seems a lot like arse-covering. If the whole thing doesn't blow over you can see them falling back on this and saying "well, we clarified our thoughts at the time and made our position perfectly clear, now sod off" later down the line. Only this statement doesn't clarify anything. It's just like they've gone through a tick list of "things to do if you want to appear accountable" and churned this out.
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Tangles
International Vice-Captain
Dogs balls isn't a compliment and it wasn't when I last spent time in England. That could have changed I suppose. His captaincy is defensive, reactionary and devoid of any reading or understanding of the game. I've probably seen worse but I'm struggling to think of it atm.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Dogs bollocks has been a compliment over here forever
uvelocity
International Coach
people comparing your head to dogs bollocks has clearly misled you in this regard
