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***Official*** India in South Africa 2013/14
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threw the wickets away looking for quick runs.(See edited post)
kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
I think it depends on what happens in durban. Steyn didnt want to be the guy to expose morkel and tahir. Going fornthe draw absolutely sucks, but w just need to win in durban now.
Also while steyn was being offered singles from bouncers... philander was forced to go over the top. It was a very nagative length the Indians were bowling to steyn.
I blame duminy, faf was just exhausted but duminy played a ****ing useless lazy shot to get out. How many chances this guy will get **** knows. I would rather have robbie p in the team.
akilana
International 12th Man
They started playing for the draw after Faf got out. I will blame them if they didn't go for the win if Faf was still in
akilana
International 12th Man
With the SA taileders, you never know. They bat like rabbits caught in headlights when under pressure.
kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
compared to the other guys in the team duminy has been a piss poor batsman recently.
in the last five games robbie p played he outperformed duminy.
Im just saying thats how crap duminy is bar one great innings.
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akilana
International 12th Man
He has always been. Apart from that epic hundred in Australia, he has done nothing in both tests and ODIs. Just hope he fails again and is kicked out of the team. It would be so annoying if he scores a 50 and keeps his place.
kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
he is probably waiting for game time vs zim, bangla, nz and the netherlands... if we play those teams by all means... play jp.
but against the top teams he is dead weight. he averages 50 as a bowler too(recently, last ten games).. in tests and ODI's. no point keeping this guy.
Spark
Global Moderator
They were less likely to win at that stage, though
(they were still quite likely to win)
I dont understand South African fans who are criticising the team for going for the draw. India needed 3 balls to win the match, and we know it takes two balls to dismiss both Morkel and Tahir, especially with Morkel on one leg. Steyn hasnt been good with the bat for a long time now, so Philander needed to protect him, and I'm glad he did. Had the team lost the match then you would have laughed at them and called them chockers, and worse they would have lost the series considering light problems in Durban and the possibility of rain. All that good work would have been for nothing. And people think that this is ODI where u can just slog. Dhoni had every man on the boundary and bowlers were bowling bouncers, which cant be called wide, so the required runs were improbable.
South African fans with their fickle attitude are the reason why guys like Kallis are not getting the applauds they deserve, and why Amla will never win the Player of the Year. You criticise the team and even boo it when they did what the great Australian or West Indian teams have failed to do. And then we have Australians who claim Warne would have gone for the win. Didn't Lara chase the record against the same Australian team. They are trying to present this SA team as a weak team that doesnt deserve the number 1 position, yet ignore the fact that they scored 450 runs, and they have previously chased the second highest runs to win a test match.
This is a great achievement for SA and they dont deserve any criticism. Criticise India for failing to take 10 wickets in 4.5 sessions.
South African fans with their fickle attitude are the reason why guys like Kallis are not getting the applauds they deserve, and why Amla will never win the Player of the Year. You criticise the team and even boo it when they did what the great Australian or West Indian teams have failed to do. And then we have Australians who claim Warne would have gone for the win. Didn't Lara chase the record against the same Australian team. They are trying to present this SA team as a weak team that doesnt deserve the number 1 position, yet ignore the fact that they scored 450 runs, and they have previously chased the second highest runs to win a test match.
This is a great achievement for SA and they dont deserve any criticism. Criticise India for failing to take 10 wickets in 4.5 sessions.
Spark
Global Moderator
1st Test: West Indies v Australia at Bridgetown, Apr 7-11, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
2nd Test: South Africa v Australia at Johannesburg, Nov 17-21, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Saying "oh they shouldn't have gone for it because they might have been called chokers" is just a sign of underconfidence tbh. If they believed they could win - and for the majority of the chase they clearly did - then that shouldn't have bothered them.
I mean, we're not talking about 25 off 3 overs. We're talking 16. Most of that can be accrued with risk-free singles, many of which were on offer at the time.
2nd Test: South Africa v Australia at Johannesburg, Nov 17-21, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Saying "oh they shouldn't have gone for it because they might have been called chokers" is just a sign of underconfidence tbh. If they believed they could win - and for the majority of the chase they clearly did - then that shouldn't have bothered them.
I mean, we're not talking about 25 off 3 overs. We're talking 16. Most of that can be accrued with risk-free singles, many of which were on offer at the time.
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kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
the singles were offered to vernon not to steyn. who had to face short wide balls. it was not easyonthepads balls he cohld plant the front foot and knock around.
kykweer.proteas
International Debutant
on the other side. does it prove they have confidence if they believe they will win in durban to take the series and decide that a draw will be good enough here?
So Australia chased 310 in Wanderers so that makes South Africa weak and Australia better? 310 wasnt a record chase and its 148 runs short of what South Africa needed to chase, and we were 1 player short. This team chased 414 in Australia so theres no way anybody should call them weak. India played very negatively and they had to, to be fair to them, and every captain would have done what Dhoni did, each and every one of them, exept maybe for Ponting and he is in record for the second worst loss in Test cricket chase.
This team did what Viv's team couldnt do, and what Waugh's didnt even attempt to do. This team is right up there with the best, and the last thing they deserve is to be booed by thier own fans, otherwise we'll continue to have inferior batsmen like Clarke winning Player of the Year instead of Amla. Before you condemn me for calling Clarke inferior, check the test rankings.