Will Chanderapul be considered an all time great?

[jonbrooks]

Unorthodox stance aside, his statistics are top notch. Couple this with the fact he played in a weak WIndies team should put him up there with the best of batsmen.

 

[Slifer]

Great of his time certainly but IMO not an all time great. Among WI I would place him behind the big 4 (Headley, Lara, Viv, Sir Garry), and perhaps the 3ws.

 

[Jono]

Nope. Gun player though.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Very good player who absorbs pressure well. But not an all time great by any means for me.
I'd place him outside WI 's top 10 batsmen

 

[Flem274*]

He doesn't make my West Indian ATG eleven but he is unquestionably one of the greats, despite what the selfless intent brigade would have you believe with their only argument.

 

[vic_orthdox]

This generation's Barrington. Great figures, people will talk about how he could score more freely when he wanted to, but will be glossed over when talking about the ATGs.

 

[JBH001]

Unfortunately, Chanders will likely never get the credit he deserves. He has gotten better too in the second half of his career. A top 10 WI bat, IMO.

 

[Himannv]

This generation's Barrington. Great figures, people will talk about how he could score more freely when he wanted to, but will be glossed over when talking about the ATGs.

Personally I rate Barrington very highly and he's an all time great in my book so that's a strange comparison for me.

I'd rate the following West Indians higher:

Sobers
Richards
Lara
Headley
3W's
Kanhai

 

[Leftarmtweaker]

Chanderpaul is an interesting one. His statistics are great, and you have to take into account he has played in arguably the weakest teams West Indies have fielded, so he pretty much always comes in during a crisis. But there is just something that prevents him from being one of the greatest. Just something.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I'd have Sobers, Lara, Viv, Headley, 3 W's, Greenidge, Kanhai, Lloyd( terribly underrated), Kallicharan, Hunte above him.

 

[jonbrooks]

Ok, so where does he rank amongst his contemporaries?

 

[salman85]

Ok, so where does he rank amongst his contemporaries?

Amongst the best 10 batsmen of his time.Best in his team certainly post Lara.But there have always been better players around amongst his contemporaries (Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Kallis etc), and there are comfortably atleast 4 WI batsmen greater than him when you look at history (Sobers, Viv, Lara, Haynes, Headley).

 

[NUFAN]

I'd have Sobers, Lara, Viv, Headley, 3 W's, Greenidge, Kanhai, Lloyd( terribly underrated), Kallicharan, Hunte above him.

What does Chanderpaul need to do for you to rank him above some of those players, especially Kallicharan and Hunte? He's had an amazing career and its been one that was quite surprising as he didn't exactly scream 'amazing career' early doors.

The All-time great question is always hard to answer, as the number of cricketers who make the cut differs between people.

 

[kyear2]

He is definitely a great player and while top top tier by any means he has to be listed as an ATG.
Windies batsmen I rate above him would be Richards, Sobers, Lara, Headley (the top tier), Walcott, Weekes, Worrell, Kanhai, Lloyd and Greenidge.
He played too much for him self instead of team and sometimes seemed detached from the team situation and requirements. Still our ultimate fighter and a perfect foil for the brilliance of Lara.

 

[NUFAN]

Chanderpaul made our World G XI http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/56705-atg-world-xi-s-game-45.html#post2878726

While he was rated 24th best batsman by DoG http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/60352-dog-s-top-100-test-batsmen-top-25-a.html#post3113241

He's a great.

 

[Bahnz]

It's also remarkable how little decline there has been in Chanderpaul's capabilities. He's probably the best 39 year old batsman I've ever seen .

Btw, when was the last time a 40+ batsman scored a hundred in test cricket?

 

[hendrix]

I consider him an All Time Great, yes.

I think he's a tier above players like Clarke and Pietersen.

 

[jonbrooks]

It's also remarkable how little decline there has been in Chanderpaul's capabilities. He's probably the best 39 year old batsman I've ever seen .

Btw, when was the last time a 40+ batsman scored a hundred in test cricket?

Yes, this is an interesting observation. Chanderpaul's consistency is remarkable. While a number of players have had form slumps, if you look at Chanderpaul's stats for the last 10 years he has been very consistent.

 

[Justo]

Chanders is definitely an ATG in my books but the sheer brilliance of other WI middle order bats means he's unable to break into the WI ATG team.

Among current batsmen (weighting towards recent form) I'd rate him below only Amla and Clarke.

 

[Slifer]

These are his contemporaries I'd rate above Shiv:

India: Rahul and srt
pak: Inzamam
Oz: Ponting S Waugh
SL: Sanga
RSA: Kallis
Wi: Lara

Other players like Clarke, Pietersen, Yousuff etc u can argue for/against but the above batsmen I think r above the Shivster from his era alone.