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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Fair weather fans are the pits. Man up and watch or just go to bed properly ffs. None of this stop watching when you're losing then come back when you're winning sook behavior.
Watch three collapses in a row? :ph34r: as we say in the caribbean..YOU MUSSA MAD!! :laugh: .

I just couldn't stomach the pathetic performances anymore!!..i sat through the India series and the beginging of this one!!..enough was enough.
 
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WindieWeathers

International Regular
Anyway!!..it's good to finally get some sleep knowing we're in with a real chance of putting up a decent total!..and with the ball turning a bit and us having two spinners one can only hope the team takes full advantage of this situation...the main goal MUST be to have NZ chasing something around 250 on the last day.
 
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Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
And stop making me defend Neil Wagner ffs. We all know Wheeler is the second best left armer in the country, Milne is the most talented bowler in the country and you are sidetracking me from my primary role as the CD Propaganda Machine in an Unholy Alliance controlled country.
Milne the most talented bowler in the country? hahahahahahahaha, okay. He's probably the third possibly fourth most talented bowler in his district.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Wow what a comeback that is. It is a measure of how awful the middle order collapse was that we are still not in a position of strength even after a dominant partnership like that. If we can get between 350 and 400 we'll give ourselves a chance because the pitch is already turning a bit, the left armers will be creating footmarks for our spinners and New Zealand will be batting last. Of course, our pacers are so poor that there is the possibility NZ will get a huge first innings score and negate that. But if they don't it's advantage us.

Just looking back over this thread, a few of you are unbelievably harsh on Ramdin. He's not the greatest keeper/batsman ever and if we had better options he would have spent an awful lot more time on the sidelines, but he played a brilliant knock yesterday at a crunch time when everything was going against us and morale was really low. Well played Denesh!

Yes he can be a bit of a hothead and the Sir Viv incident was ludicrous. But most of you sing Watling's praises and over the last 18 months I'm pretty sure Ramdin has been averaging more than him (46 with 3 hundreds). That's pretty damn good.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Wow what a comeback that is. It is a measure of how awful the middle order collapse was that we are still not in a position of strength even after a dominant partnership like that. If we can get between 350 and 400 we'll give ourselves a chance because the pitch is already turning a bit, the left armers will be creating footmarks for our spinners and New Zealand will be batting last. Of course, our pacers are so poor that there is the possibility NZ will get a huge first innings score and negate that. But if they don't it's advantage us.

Just looking back over this thread, a few of you are unbelievably harsh on Ramdin. He's not the greatest keeper/batsman ever and if we had better options he would have spent an awful lot more time on the sidelines, but he played a brilliant knock yesterday at a crunch time when everything was going against us and morale was really low. Well played Denesh!

Yes he can be a bit of a hothead and the Sir Viv incident was ludicrous. But most of you sing Watling's praises and over the last 18 months I'm pretty sure Ramdin has been averaging more than him (46 with 3 hundreds). That's pretty damn good.
Though Watling has potential.. right now it's not even a contest imo!!..Ramdin has scored three tons over the last 12 months or so!!..all away from home..and the one in England was just as impressive as the one he got yesterday. Of course he's struggled with consistancy for much of his career but over the last year or so he's averaged over 40 in test cricket!!..just behind Chanderpaul and Samuels as our main batsmen.

After this i think his claim to take the captaincy will be strong!!..although i'd probably prefer to give young Darren Bravo the chance like SA did with Smith i wouldn't have no complaints if Denesh took over for he next two series vs NZ and Bangledash at home next year.
 
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BeeGee

International Captain
The hallmark of bad sides is lots of players with very few test caps each, because selectors panic and go searching for instant results, and it never works. See England and NZ 1995, NZ 2007 - 2011 etc.
This, so, so, so much.

Remember when Southee was a 40 average bowler and people were calling for him to be dropped?

Selection stability is critical for team development. Critical.

BTW, Flem is a genius. I suspect he's a PEWS multi.
 
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hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Yes he can be a bit of a hothead and the Sir Viv incident was ludicrous. But most of you sing Watling's praises and over the last 18 months I'm pretty sure Ramdin has been averaging more than him (46 with 3 hundreds). That's pretty damn good.
Watling averages 48 over the last 18 months.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Just looking back over this thread, a few of you are unbelievably harsh on Ramdin. He's not the greatest keeper/batsman ever and if we had better options he would have spent an awful lot more time on the sidelines, but he played a brilliant knock yesterday at a crunch time when everything was going against us and morale was really low. Well played Denesh!
Yeah I just really don't like the guy. He's actually hugely talented but he must be one of the most lazy cricketers I've ever seen. I hate how he never runs up to the stumps when runouts could be attempted.

When he first came on the scene he looked athletic and talented, now I don't see him making big dives to save byes, and I wouldn't want to be fielding at first slip with him. It's actually ridiculous to consider that Haddin at 36 looks more athletic and spry than Ramdin - especially after seeing Denesh as a 20 yo. One of my biggest disappointments, tbh.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Just looking back over this thread, a few of you are unbelievably harsh on Ramdin. He's not the greatest keeper/batsman ever and if we had better options he would have spent an awful lot more time on the sidelines, but he played a brilliant knock yesterday at a crunch time when everything was going against us and morale was really low. Well played Denesh!

Yes he can be a bit of a hothead and the Sir Viv incident was ludicrous. But most of you sing Watling's praises and over the last 18 months I'm pretty sure Ramdin has been averaging more than him (46 with 3 hundreds). That's pretty damn good.
Haha that would be me. We've all got those players we simply don't rate. To me he batted like he always (loose, little application or character) does and got away with it this time. Absolutely fair play to him nevertheless.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Milne the most talented bowler in the country? hahahahahahahaha, okay. He's probably the third possibly fourth most talented bowler in his district.
Didn't realise we had three or four blokes who can bowl inswing at pace. How times change eh. Now we're the ones with the good bowlers and ND just have a few medium pacers to show for their post Southee and Boult investments.:p
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Hey Beamer!!.have you heard the big rumours about Gibson and Sammy being replaced by Junior Bennett and Ramdin respectively after this series? The Gibson rumours have been rife for a while now because apparently he's going to Durham...while thankfully the Sammy shambles seems to be finally coming to an end now.

Bennett would be an interesting choice...won five four day titles in a row for Jamaica and has just had a successful tour coaching the A-team in India.
 
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