***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013

[wellAlbidarned]

don't forget the great tradition of lesser aussies scoring truckloads of runs against us then failing against everyone else.

 

[Kippax]

Squads to be announced tomorrow btw.

Possible New Zealand squads for England

Tests: Brendon McCullum (c), Peter Fulton, Hamish Rutherford, Kane Williamson, Ross Taylor, Dean Brownlie, Martin Guptill, Tom Latham, BJ Watling, Tim Southee, Doug Bracewell, Bruce Martin, Neil Wagner, Ian Butler, Trent Boult.

ODI/Champions Trophy: McCullum (c), Guptill, Watling, Williamson, Taylor, Grant Elliott, Colin Munro, James Franklin, Andrew Ellis, Dan Vettori, Nathan McCullum, Tim Southee, Kyle Mills, Trent Boult, Mitchell McClenaghan

Fmd that'd be an uninspired little release right there. Thanks for going out on a limb, David Leggat.

 

[Jezroy]

Pretty good looking squads (especially after the last couple of months).

ODI top order still a bit dicey...

 

[lockton2skipper]

McClenaghan could be very handy in england in may .could pip butler .can guptill really be a contender for the test squad ?

 

[Immenso]

McClenaghan could be very handy in england in may .could pip butler .can guptill really be a contender for the test squad ?

MM won't be fit in time for May. But is in line to be fit for ODIs in June.

 

[GIMH]

Tipping us to take all seven home Tests this summer

 

[BeeGee]

Tipping us to take all seven home Tests this summer

Surely at least one game will be rained out?

 

[GIMH]

Will be awarded to us due to good behaviour

 

[Jezroy]

Tipping us to take all seven home Tests this summer

Funnily enough, I thought barring rain Eng would win 3-0 in NZ.

Now, there appears to be hope. That's probably when we fall over.

 

[Flem274*]

Squadz boys

Test squad:
Brendon McCullum (c)
Trent Boult
Doug Bracewell
Dean Brownlie
Peter Fulton
Martin Guptill
Mark Gillespie
Tom Latham
Bruce Martin
Hamish Rutherford
Tim Southee
Ross Taylor
Neil Wagner
Bradley John Watling
Kane Williamson

ODI and ICC Champions Trophy squad:
Brendon McCullum (c)
Trent Boult
Grant Elliott
Andrew Ellis
James Franklin
Martin Guptill
Mitchell McClenaghan
Nathan McCullum
Kyle Mills
Colin Munro
Luke Ronchi
Tim Southee
Ross Taylor
Daniel Vettori
Kane Williamson

No surprises in there. The selectors must be confident Gillespie is bowling well again. Vettori's back.

 

[Flem274*]

Fulton
Rutherford
Williamson
Taylor
Brownlie
McCullum
Watling
Southee
Martin
Wagner
Boult

and

Guptill
Ronchi
Williamson
Taylor
Elliott
McCullum
Franklin
Vettori
Southee
Mills
McClenaghan

will be the respective teams imo

 

[_Ed_]

Yeah, happy with those squads.

Think it's about time Cricinfo updated their profile for Ronchi...

Born in New Zealand, he is a man Australia will be thrilled to call their own over the next few years.

 

[Jezroy]

Guptill
Ronchi
Williamson
Taylor
Elliott
McCullum
Franklin
Vettori
Southee
Mills
McClenaghan

will be the respective teams imo

They must be going to open with Ronchi. EDIT - yes they are. The only other option in there is McCullum, and I don't think that's happening. Funny someone like Papps scores a lot of 50 over runs, but they pick someone who had a pretty average Ford Trophy and HRV Cup. Hope they are right (yes, I think Ronchi is a better ODI option than Papps also).

No BJ in the ODI squad? He was doing well down the order a few months ago. Put him up the order, he fails. So they drop him. Stink buzz.

 

[Blain]

Nuffy Ellis in the squad but no Matt Henry (easily the best limited overs bowler in the country this season), what a crock of ****. Watling missing out is pretty harsh.

Franklin
Elliott
Ellis

God we need some all rounders, these guys are the weakest spot in our team (although Franko there isn't to bad).

 

[Bahnz]

Slightly harsh on Butler, given he took tons of wickets for Otago as a first change seamer. Reckon Latham should be in the ODI squad and Ronchi in the test squad. Interesting that they seem to have shelved the Milne experiment for the winter.

Agree that BJ missing out on the ODI squad is an eyebrow raiser. I presume Ronchi is pretty much guaranteed to open the batting then?

 

[jcas0167]

Watling had a poor ODI series, so not hugely surprised they decided to introduce Ronchi - although Papps could feel hard done by.

Some pretty conservative selections, I know Hesson likes experience but Henry clearly merited a place.

 

[Howsie]

No Watling

Up until that England series he had been one of our best (if not best) 50 overs batsmen for a decent period of time. But hey, he works hard and will do anything for the team, something that just isn't looked favourably upon in this New Zealand setup.

Feel for him and have said it all along, Hesson doesn't rate him and he's one poor series away from being dropped.

 

[Howsie]

Luke Ronchi 129 runs @ 25. Ah yes, get that man in the team.

As for Franklin, Ellis, Munro and McCullum, fmd. What a group of jokesters that lot is. A group of 20/40 players.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Not fussed about Henry not being in the team. Just look at how letting Boult develop and strengthen his game in domestics has helped him compared to Southee and Bracewell who just got chucked in the deep end.

Frallisullum can GAGF. Munro doesn't have a track record of mediocrity yet so it's not fair to group him in with them.

 

[jcas0167]

Not fussed about Henry not being in the team. Just look at how letting Boult develop and strengthen his game in domestics has helped him compared to Southee and Bracewell who just got chucked in the deep end.

Frallisullum can GAGF. Munro doesn't have a track record of mediocrity yet so it's not fair to group him in with them.

In Bracewell's case I think he was introduced at the right time, and obviously his performances were crucial to away wins against Zimbabwe and Australia. I think the mistake was playing him in too much ODI & T20 cricket which I'm not sure he's that suited to. Henry is in good form and early season England might be a reasonable place for a pace bowler to debut. Although Ellis obviously appeals as a solid, no-nonsense type of player.