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***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

Cevno

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Rahane has been in the squad for 16 months, 15/16 tests and 7 others have debuted since then apparently.
 

Prince EWS

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You don't pre meditate using your feet. You use your feet depending on the flight and whether your judgment tells you that you can get to the pitch. If the bowler drags it back because the batsman is getting to the pitch too regularly, then the prudent player of spin will use the depth of his crease and play off the back foot.
Yeah I've given up with that discussion; he clearly doesn't understand why batsmen use their feet to spin or why it's so effective if you do it really well.

If you can read the flight of the ball out of the hand and use your feet then it doesn't matter which way it's turning, because you'll either be to the pitch of the ball or, if it's short enough, back in your crease to play it off the pitch. If the bowler changes his length then you read that out of the hand and stay back. The whole point is to avoid the "neither back foot nor front foot" length where the ball turning more, less or in the other direction to what you expected could catch you out.

I'm not saying Smith's footwork is good enough for all that at the moment but that's his methodology, and if he plays well then it's not going to matter if he reads the turn out of the hand or not; he just needs to read the flight.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
We probably won't.
Haha, well however long it lasts. Sometimes these pitches get better to bat on for a while. It could become a complete minefield too, of course, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it one way or another.

Johnson should be a handful - though in the morning I would have said pace bowling should take a lot of wickets here, but spin seems to be working better, so I don't know how that's going to play out when India bat.

On the other hand - I just saw 67 overs bowled...could get 100 overs in today?
 

ganeshran

International Debutant
Yeah I've given up with that discussion; he clearly doesn't understand why batsmen use their feet to spin or why it's so effective if you do it really well.

If you can read the flight of the ball out of the hand and use your feet then it doesn't matter which way it's turning, because you'll either be to the pitch of the ball or, if it's short enough, back in your crease to play it off the pitch. If the bowler changes his length then you read that out of the hand and stay back. The whole point is to avoid the "neither back foot nor front foot" length where the ball turning more, less or in the other direction to what you expected could catch you out.

I'm not saying Smith's footwork is good enough for all that at the moment but that's his methodology, and if he plays well then it's not going to matter if he reads the turn out of the hand or not; he just needs to read the flight.
You are missing the point here. I didnt say the only way to survive playing spin is if you read the turn of the ball, but that it is a massive help in the subcontinent conditions. During long innings against spin, batsmen tend to lose concentration every now and then resulting in a lack of proper foot movement or misjudging the line.

It is in these conditions that knowing which way the ball will turn that helps. Of course if you possess the ability to get to the pitch of every full delivery and enough judgement to stay back to every short one, you dont really need to know which the ball will turn. But that seldom happens with most players. Batsmen will get stuck in the middle, where they need to negotiate a turning delivery.
 

Spikey

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Kerry O'Keeffe ‏@kokeeffe49 4m
Simon Crean claimed 5 front line players today...Ashes certainty , I reckon !!!!

Brydon Coverdale
@kokeeffe49 Steven Smith still looking good as Minister for Defence here in Delhi.

Good from these two ****s
 

Burgey

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Let's not forget that Aus have batted first in all 4 tests and still gone on to lose (yep they will lose this too- only a matter of time unless something miraculous happens..)

Can't play any worse in indian conditions.
Check out the big brain on this ****.
 

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