***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

[Prince EWS]

FFS Gavaskar, if we wanted to listen to the Hindi commentary then we would've.

 

[Cevno]

Rahane has been in the squad for 16 months, 15/16 tests and 7 others have debuted since then apparently.

 

[Prince EWS]

You don't pre meditate using your feet. You use your feet depending on the flight and whether your judgment tells you that you can get to the pitch. If the bowler drags it back because the batsman is getting to the pitch too regularly, then the prudent player of spin will use the depth of his crease and play off the back foot.

Yeah I've given up with that discussion; he clearly doesn't understand why batsmen use their feet to spin or why it's so effective if you do it really well.

If you can read the flight of the ball out of the hand and use your feet then it doesn't matter which way it's turning, because you'll either be to the pitch of the ball or, if it's short enough, back in your crease to play it off the pitch. If the bowler changes his length then you read that out of the hand and stay back. The whole point is to avoid the "neither back foot nor front foot" length where the ball turning more, less or in the other direction to what you expected could catch you out.

I'm not saying Smith's footwork is good enough for all that at the moment but that's his methodology, and if he plays well then it's not going to matter if he reads the turn out of the hand or not; he just needs to read the flight.

 

[dermo]

I was involved in a prolonged twitter debate with that **** over that article.


I've become everything I hate.

truely one of the worst articles ever written

 

[Spikey]

smith making a mockery of many so called "experts" here

The only expert here is me and i backed the call

 

[Cevno]

Close one.

 

[silentstriker]

Not that it will make it that far but how bad will this pitch be by day 5?

I don't know if it will deteriorate that much...we'll see though.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't know if it will deteriorate that much...we'll see though.

We probably won't.

 

[Spark]

Just saw Watson's dismissal.

Woweee.

 

[dermo]

The only expert here is me and i backed the call

nah **** when i said here i meant over in ****in india as in here in this test, and the experts i was talkin about were ****s in the media

 

[silentstriker]

We probably won't.

Haha, well however long it lasts. Sometimes these pitches get better to bat on for a while. It could become a complete minefield too, of course, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it one way or another.

Johnson should be a handful - though in the morning I would have said pace bowling should take a lot of wickets here, but spin seems to be working better, so I don't know how that's going to play out when India bat.

On the other hand - I just saw 67 overs bowled...could get 100 overs in today?

 

[Grasshopper]

Good luck, Australia!

 

[ganeshran]

Yeah I've given up with that discussion; he clearly doesn't understand why batsmen use their feet to spin or why it's so effective if you do it really well.

If you can read the flight of the ball out of the hand and use your feet then it doesn't matter which way it's turning, because you'll either be to the pitch of the ball or, if it's short enough, back in your crease to play it off the pitch. If the bowler changes his length then you read that out of the hand and stay back. The whole point is to avoid the "neither back foot nor front foot" length where the ball turning more, less or in the other direction to what you expected could catch you out.

I'm not saying Smith's footwork is good enough for all that at the moment but that's his methodology, and if he plays well then it's not going to matter if he reads the turn out of the hand or not; he just needs to read the flight.

You are missing the point here. I didnt say the only way to survive playing spin is if you read the turn of the ball, but that it is a massive help in the subcontinent conditions. During long innings against spin, batsmen tend to lose concentration every now and then resulting in a lack of proper foot movement or misjudging the line.

It is in these conditions that knowing which way the ball will turn that helps. Of course if you possess the ability to get to the pitch of every full delivery and enough judgement to stay back to every short one, you dont really need to know which the ball will turn. But that seldom happens with most players. Batsmen will get stuck in the middle, where they need to negotiate a turning delivery.

 

[Spikey]

Kerry O'Keeffe ‏@kokeeffe49 4m
Simon Crean claimed 5 front line players today...Ashes certainty , I reckon !!!!

Brydon Coverdale
@kokeeffe49 Steven Smith still looking good as Minister for Defence here in Delhi.

Good from these two ****s

 

[silentstriker]

There's only one minister of defense:

 

[Burgey]

I was involved in a prolonged twitter debate with that **** over that article.


I've become everything I hate.

That's ok. You've long been everything we all hate

 

[Burgey]

Let's not forget that Aus have batted first in all 4 tests and still gone on to lose (yep they will lose this too- only a matter of time unless something miraculous happens..)

Can't play any worse in indian conditions.

Check out the big brain on this ****.

 

[smash84]

well played....

Always knew that Steve Smith was vastly under rated and this tour proves it

 

[silentstriker]

Throughout the series, the Australian lower order has seemed so much more confident against spin than their top order.

 

[ganeshran]

Throughout the series, the Australian lower order has seemed so much more confident against spin than their top order.

Showed better technique too.