Pietersen vs Sangakkara

[Himannv]

Dravid is better than Sanga I reckon.

 

[Coronis]

Dravid is better than Sanga I reckon.

A much closer comparison than Pieterson/Sanga, at least.

 

[Migara]

I'd take Dravid over Sanga and Kallis as a batsman. Complete packagewise, Kallis and Sanga, together with Gilchrist are peerless in the current era.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah I came here to say how shocked I am to see that GIMH has made a reasonable and informed cricket post for once.

Less of it please.

Don't worry, I doubt it will happen again.

****s

 

[kyear2]

Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting, Kallis, Sangakkara, Dravid personally.

This order for me too. Top three very difficult to separate as well. Especially Lara and Tendy.

 

[centurymaker]

Sanga over Dravid. That is a joke, isn't it?

Dravid has one the best overseas records of all batsmen. He even tended to do better away from home. What a legend

 

[Cabinet96]

I don't know what I hate more, comparison threads or the default "I hate comparison threads, stats suck blah" post

Haha, this. If you don't like the thread, don't post in it and whinge about how crap it is. Some people do enjoy the thread.

I can't help but feel that the timing of this thread is slightly disingenuous as well. Alright, those two tons may not have been the most difficult of all time and you could certainly make the case that it doesn't enhance Sangs's standing as a batsman at all, but then neither does it detract from it.

Yeah, this. I almost find that Sanga's reputation is damaged every time he scores a ton at home. People just cry FTB for anything inside Sri Lanka because the pitches are apparently flat. Of course, when a Sri Lankan spinner rips through England in Sri Lanka, the pitch is spin friendly.

 

[kyear2]

How many wickets were taken in that match compared to runs scored?
The pitch was flat and attack was poor, not a baseless acusation, it's a fact, and Kumar cashed. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Cabinet96]

I didn't see any of the match, so I can't comment on the pitch. But it is dangerous to comment on it based on how many runs were scored, given the bowling attacks of the two teams.

 

[Prince EWS]

How many wickets were taken in that match compared to runs scored?
The pitch was flat and attack was poor, not a baseless acusation, it's a fact, and Kumar cashed. Nothing wrong with that.

Spark nailed it though. It's almost as if his reputation is sullied by scoring runs like that sometimes. Sure the last Test he played really does add very, very little value to his standing to a batsman, however it almost seems as if people rate him less for scoring those hundreds than if he'd bagged a pair.

It's one thing to say they may very little or even nothing; it's another thing to actually put him down for scoring those runs.

 

[kyear2]

I didn't critisize him for it though.

As I said he cashed in, nothing wrong with that. He is not in my mind exactly the greatest road warrior, but he also isn't nearly the FTBs that Sehwag and Mahela are.

 

[Prince EWS]

I didn't critisize him for it though.

And I didn't say you did.

It does seem like he does get criticised it for it sometimes though. Not by you.

 

[Coronis]

And I didn't say you did.

It does seem like he does get criticised it for it sometimes though. Not by you.

One of the many things I dislike. It doesn't necessarily increase his standing, but, I don't see how it can decrease people's opinion of them..

 

[L Trumper]

And I didn't say you did.

It does seem like he does get criticised it for it sometimes though. Not by you.

Not in this thread. But criticism is more also nuanced than that. The point is he might have scored lot more runs in those cases than others, consequently less in more demanding situations. I don't think it is true, but that is a valid criticism.

 

[centurymaker]

Not in this thread. But criticism is more also nuanced than that. The point is he might have scored lot more runs in those cases than others, consequently less in more demanding situations. I don't think it is true, but that is a valid criticism.

Hence mere raw stats don't tell you anything when someone has played so much at home and so little away.

 

[akilana]

Exactly. thats why ponting is better than sachin .

 

[hendrix]

Stats do not make Sachin better than Ponting.

Stats do make Sangakkarra better than Pieterson.

It's the relative values of each that are quite significantly different.

Sangakkarra has scored more runs at a better average over a longer period of time in a variety of conditions against a variety of quality bowling.

 

[L Trumper]

Stats do not make Sachin better than Ponting.

Stats do make Sangakkarra better than Pieterson.

It's the relative values of each that are quite significantly different.

Sangakkarra has scored more runs at a better average over a longer period of time in a variety of conditions against a variety of quality bowling.

Did he though? Without BD his average falls down to 53. He averages less than 40 in ENG, SA, IND, WI- that is half the teams-. The reason he has better record than KP is mostly based on his outstanding record against/in PAK/UAE. Apart from that both have similar records, in fact KP shades it a bit. I do think Sanga is better but this idea of them not being in same class, him being streets ahead is complete conjecture.

 

[L Trumper]

Exactly. thats why ponting is better than sachin .

No. He is not

 

[kyear2]

Think it's closer than most think though.