The ATG ODI World XIs Game

[Satyanash89]

captain ?
1.kapil
2.dhoni (actually.. i dont lik him )

The way you put it made me lol

 

[Michaelf7777777]

Michael Bevan and Lance Klusner

 

[watson]

With the benefit of hindsight, I reckon we should have gone with the following:

01. Sanath Jayasuriya
02. Sachin Tendulkar
03. Viv Richards
04. Dean Jones
05. Andrew Symonds
06. MS Dhoni+
07. Lance Klusener
08. Shaun Pollock
09. Wasim Akram
10. Joel Garner
11. Muralitharan

That's a very good team Himannv. But it highlights some philosophical questions when selecting ATG ODI teams;

(1.) Do you go for the ODI specialist who is not normally an ATG player - such as, Dean Jones, Andrew Symonds, MS Dhoni, and Lance Klusener?

OR

(2) Do you go for the 'Gold Tier' ATG player, but with the slightly inferior ODI record - such as Adam Gilchrist and Brian Lara?

Personally, I prefer to select 'Gold Tier' ATG Players because I make the assumption that you need top class batsman to take on top class bowlers. And vice versa. Obviously, I make the odd exception (eg Michael Bevan), but in the main I think that the team is more solid with the vast majority being 'Gold Tier' ATGs.

Incidently, this study is interesting;

http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/itfigures/archives/2010/01/_sachin_tendulkar_on_top.php

Therefore,

01. Sachin Tendulkar
02. Adam Gilchrist
03. Ricky Ponting
04. Viv Richards
05. Brian Lara
06. Michael Bevan
07. Kapil Dev
08. Richard Hadlee
09. Wasim Akram
10. Joel Garner
11. Muttiah Muralitheran

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Hussey would be a better option than Dohni (already have Gilly) and Bevan (Hussey can hit).

Hussey - 6
Imran - 7 (c)

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Ideally though

1. Brian Lara
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Vivian Richards
5. Michael Bevan
6. MS Dohni (wk)
7. Imran Khan (c)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Muttiah Muralitharan
10. Joel Garner
11. Glenn McGrath

 

[Jarquis]

Verrrrrry tight as things stand

 

[watson]

Hussey would be a better option than Dohni (already have Gilly) and Bevan (Hussey can hit).

Hussey - 6
Imran - 7 (c)

I see Hussey and Bevan as on a par with respect to ODIs. Except that Bevan had more 'fire-power'.

For example, here is Bevan's 185 V Asia off not many balls. Anil Kumble gets turned into mince-meat;

Michael Bevan 185 vs Asia BattiMobile Ghotki 03003196100 - YouTube

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Hessey has a better strike rate and was an amazing finisher.

 

[Red]

My ideal team (today) would be....


- A. Gilchrist+
- S. Tendulkar
- R. Ponting
- B. Lara
- V. Richards
- C. Lloyd
- K. Dev
- W. Akram
- A. Donald
- J. Garner
- M. Muralitharan



Would be comfortable with swapping Donald for Hadlee or Imran to strengthen the batting a bit, but Donald was a great ODI bowler, and deserves recognition.

 

[morgieb]

Hessey has a better strike rate and was an amazing finisher.

Played in a different era though.

But I think they're pretty close together.

 

[watson]

Hessey has a better strike rate and was an amazing finisher.

It's true that Bevan has the higher average (54 v 48) but Hussey the higher Strike Rate (87 v 74).

However, Bevan chose not to 'power-hit' because he didn't need to. He rotated the strike and merely coasted Australia to the required total. So, it's not a matter that he didn't have the 'fire-power' at his disposal, but rather chose not to use it in order to minimise risk.

But when he needed to clear the boundary he was almost as good as Viv Richards IMO.

Here is the scorecard featuring Bevan's 185 (132 balls) against Akram, Vaas, Kumble, Murali and Razzaq.

He leaves Jayasuriyah, Tendulkar, Mark Waugh, Jacques Kallis, and Lance Klusener for dead.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/84278.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSBisb9iGPM

 

[Daemon]

Could get watto to open the batting instead of gilly then have both dhoni and bevan in the side

 

[watson]

I make that (although Marcuss might find differently);

MB = 9
IK = 7
MSD = 6
KD = 5
LK = 4
CL = 2
SP = 1
MH = 1
AF = 1

Note: Sobers1 voted twice for some reason.

 

[Red]

Could get watto to open the batting instead of gilly then have both dhoni and bevan in the side

Including Watson (version capable of bowling 10 overs) and Dhoni gives a side pretty amazing batting depth, especially if you add the best bowling all rounders in as well!


- Watson (5)
- Tendulkar
- Ponting
- Lara
- V. Richards
- Dhoni +
- Lloyd/AB DeVil/Hussey/Bevan
- Kapil (3)
- Imran (2)
- Hadlee (1)
- Warne (4)

 

[Jarquis]

Number 6
Michael Bevan - 9
MS Dhoni - 6
Clive Lloyd - 2
Michael Hussey - 1

Number 7
Imran Khan - 7
Kapil Dev - 5
Lance Klusener - 4
Andrew Flintoff - 1
Shaun Pollock - 1


Team Thus Far
1. Adam Gilchrist
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Vivian Richards
5. Brian Lara
6. Michael Bevan
7. Imran Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Joel Garner
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath

 

[Jarquis]

Select The Opening Batsmen
Hashim Amla, Saeed Anwar, Sourav Ganguly, Chris Gayle, Gordon Greenidge, Matthew Hayden, Sanath Jayasuriya, Saeed Anwar, Virender Sehwag, Graeme Smith, Shane Watson, Mark Waugh

Select Your Spinner
Abdul Qadir, Brad Hogg, Saeed Ajmal, Saqlain Mushtaq, Shakib Al Hasan, Shane Warne

 

[morgieb]

Isn't Tendulkar in the first XI?

Anwar, Jayasuriya
Warne

 

[Red]

Team Thus Far
1. Adam Gilchrist
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Vivian Richards
5. Brian Lara
6. Michael Bevan
7. Imran Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Joel Garner
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath

That's a gun combo. The only changes I'd really make are to replace Bevan with Lloyd or AB DeVil, but's that's just my own little personal preference. The bowling attack is lethal. Garner, McGrath and Murali are very hard to score off, and that means Imran and Wasim are likely to strike more often than normal. Might include Kapil in place of Imran also, just for some added firepower.

Anyways, here's my prediction for the 2nd XI....

- Jayasuriya
- Hashim Amla
- Dean Jones
- Zaheer Abbas
- MS Dhoni +
- Lloyd *
- Klusener
- Kapil Dev
- Hadlee
- Warne
- Donald

 

[morgieb]

Abbas isn't an opener IIRC.

 

[Red]

Amla
Jayasuriya

Warne