English ATG Team- Open Voting

[a massive zebra]

Wilfred Rhodes and Jim Laker.

 

[Prince EWS]

One specialist seamer, Botham, Barnes and two spinners would certainly be an oddly balanced bowling attack. I can see where the motivation to play Rhodes comes from though; Botham and Knott at 6 and 7 is comparatively weak compared to what the other sides will come up with, so to have a tail without a bowling allrounder in it as well would really make for a weak bottom half of the batting lineup. That's actually the main reason I picked Briggs originally (before changing), although I tend to rate his batting a bit higher than most anyway.

 

[Satyanash89]

Tyson, coz the fiery combination with trueman,would be some sight
Laker, coz a world-class offie would provide great variety to the attack

 

[Days of Grace]

Going to go with

Larwood
Laker

But I think the tail is too long. Almost went with Rhodes for his batting.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Laker & Larwood for me.

Lol would be a more than capable #8. Averaged a tick under 20 with the bat and had 3 FC tons.

 

[grecian]

Rhodes, Tyson

Extra batting of Rhodes, and Tyson gives you a genuinely quick bowler. Was tempted to go for two spinners, with Hammond as back-up, but decided against it, also thought of throwing Flintoff in there and then Underwood, ideally I wouldn't have had Botham in the last pick though.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Verity + Larwood

This.

Worried about the tail though

 

[BoyBrumby]

It's the wisdom of crowds and all, but IMHO Botham at #6 looks like overkill on the bowling front with Hammond's decent seam, the not dire leggies of Kenny Barrington and the good-enough-to-take-a-test-Michelle Chinamen of Compton to call on too.

 

[Howe_zat]

More I look at it the more I agree with that, especially considering Knott was picked to make the most of any chances. That said I'll still add in someone who definately has both disciplines on his CV.

Will change my vote to Hedley Verity and WG Grace please

(formerly Verity and Larwood)

 

[Prince EWS]

It's the wisdom of crowds and all, but IMHO Botham at #6 looks like overkill on the bowling front with Hammond's decent seam, the not dire leggies of Kenny Barrington and the good-enough-to-take-a-test-Michelle Chinamen of Compton to call on too.

Yeah; part of me regrets voting for Botham, especially since I don't rate him as highly as most. It just seemed silly to leave him out though. My Prior vote is starting to look better now though..

 

[Eds]

Howe says good things.

WG Grace and Jim Laker.

 

[Prince EWS]

Someone wake me up if the Grace movement takes off enough to actually be realistically worth voting for. I'd be keen to get in on that but given I already spent an opener vote and a middle order vote on it, I feel I've done my part as far as principle votes go for the great man.

 

[Cabinet96]

Joining the bandwagon. Grace and Laker

 

[Michaelf7777777]

WG Grace and Hedley Verity

 

[fredfertang]

Larwood and Verity

 

[Camo999]

Grace and Underwood

 

[watson]

Looks like we're going to end up with an attack consisting of 1 x Fast Bowler, 1 x Medium Fast Bowler,1 x Medium Pace Spinner, and 2 x Slow Spinners.

The other ATG teams must be wetting themselves with laughter and falling over eachother to pad-up;

01. Laker = 11
02. Verity = 8
03. Larwood = 6
04. Grace = 5 (what the?)
05. Bedser = 3
06. Tyson = 3
07. Underwood = 3
08. Rhodes = 2
09. Snow = 2

Perhaps we should start again. This time having separate polls - one for the two pace bowlers, and one for the spinners spot?

Or just take the most popular spinner, and the most popular pace bowler from this exististing poll? That would give us Laker and Larwood thus far.

 

[Red]

Looks like we're going to end up with an attack consisting of 1 x Fast Bowler, 1 x Medium Fast Bowler,1 x Medium Pace Spinner, and 2 x Slow Spinners.

The other ATG teams must be wetting themselves with laughter;

01. Laker = 11
02. Verity = 8
03. Larwood = 6
04. Grace = 5 (what the?)
05. Bedser = 3
06. Tyson = 3
07. Underwood = 3
08. Rhodes = 2
09. Snow = 2

Perhaps we should start again. This time having separate polls - one for the two pace bowlers, and one for the spinners spot???

I just tallied them up as well as you posted this. Thanks mate.

I don't think we need to start again though. We've ended up with a decent indication. We have Trueman (undoubtably an opening bowler), SF Barnes (the greatest opening bowler from his era), Botham (a very decent fast/med first change) and two high quality different styled spinners. Added to that, Verity's batting adds to the tail.

So if nothing else changes, we end up with...


- Jack Hobbs
- Len Hutton
- Wally Hammond
- Ken Barrington
- Dennis Compton
- Ian Botham
- Allan Knott
- Hedley Verity
- Jim Laker
- Fred Trueman
- SF Barnes


Changes to the cricinfo team are:

- Compton over Pieterson
- Verity over Larwood
- Laker over Underwood

 

[watson]

Or just take the most popular spinner, and the most popular pace bowler from this exististing poll? That would give us Laker and Larwood thus far.

An ATG team without a pair of fast bowlers is unthinkable.

Lillee + Thomson, Holding + Roberts, Lindwall + Miller, Gregory + McDonald, McGrath + Gillespie/Lee, Waqar + Wasim etc etc have all won 'countless' Test matches. Two quicks opening the bowling is the most proven method for winning games of cricket in the history of cricket.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Looks like we're going to end up with an attack consisting of 1 x Fast Bowler, 1 x Medium Fast Bowler,1 x Medium Pace Spinner, and 2 x Slow Spinners.

The other ATG teams must be wetting themselves with laughter;

01. Laker = 11
02. Verity = 8
03. Larwood = 6
04. Grace = 5 (what the?)
05. Bedser = 3
06. Tyson = 3
07. Underwood = 3
08. Rhodes = 2
09. Snow = 2

Perhaps we should start again. This time having separate polls - one for the two pace bowlers, and one for the spinners spot?

Or just take the most popular spinner, and the most popular pace bowler from this exististing poll? That would give us Laker and Larwood thus far.

It's killing me but I think i have to let this out; this side will collapse in a heap many times and someone from top 5 will be stranded alone. It's a serious pressure on top 5 to score heavily, they are very much capable of doing it often but the difference is they will be facing ATG attack. But this extra amount of pressure might bring out the best in them.

I would rather prefer a solid no.6, One Spinner, Three Fast Bowlers and Hammond as 5th option here.