**Official** South Africa in England 2012

[Jager]

What are the chances that he didn't actually send any 'nasty' texts and that it's all just an enormous media blowout? Pietersen certainly doing the right thing and not apologizing if that's the case

 

[grecian]

What are the chances that he didn't actually send any 'nasty' texts and that it's all just an enormous media blowout? Pietersen certainly doing the right thing and not apologizing if that's the case

Well, surely then he just needs to say he didn't send them, and not have to apologise?

I have an hangover, and this stuff is hurting my head

 

[amanuensis]

I've posed this question on the other thread, but I'm going to repeat it here - has Pietersen ever been treated for narcissistic personality disorder & if not, why not?

 

[ProteasFan]

I think he was asked to explain them, he didn't, was given 6 hours to do so too.

Really think the Saffies part in this stinks to high heaven, if it wasn't a big deal, why tell people about it. KPs so-called IPL friends too. All rather unpleasant from all parties really.

why? How are we involved? did we leak the story? I didn't realise we did. could you point that out?

 

[grecian]

why? How are we involved? did we leak the story? I didn't realise we did. could you point that out?

George Dobell said you lot just sort of mentioned it to the press. Not the ECB this time.

Also funny that this statement about it not being a big deal, comes after KP is axed isn't it?

 

[Jager]

I don't know if I can stand watching England bat now actually, I used to put up with the agony of Trott, Strauss and to a lesser extent Cook because I knew that there'd be a chance of magic afterwards

 

[Spark]

George Dobell said you lot just sort of mentioned it to the press. Not the ECB this time.

Also funny that this statement about it not being a big deal, comes after KP is axed isn't it?

If it was a presser, obviously he wasn't asked before then.

 

[grecian]

If it was a presser, obviously he wasn't asked before then.

Could have still released a statement to the press, y'know he's had some time, if he thought it was all an over-reaction.

 

[Woodster]

Looking on this with a positive (and moving on) slant, it does offer an opportunity for someone like Jonny Bairstow to come in and impress, the batting line-up may need a shuffle, though probably not ideal to have Bairstow and Taylor together in the order, hope Bell moves up to four though. Possibly bat Prior at six and Bairstow at seven.

 

[Spark]

Could have still released a statement to the press, y'know he's had some time, if he thought it was all an over-reaction.

Why? It doesn't concern him, really.

 

[grecian]

Why? It doesn't concern him, really.

Well, it was them who released it to the press, and if it didn't really cocern him, he could have said no comment. It's stirring, IMHO.

 

[Eds]

Am I the only one that thinks if Pietersen did release a statement saying the texts weren't about Flower/Strauss, none of you would believe him?

 

[marc71178]

Looking on this with a positive (and moving on) slant, it does offer an opportunity for someone like Jonny Bairstow to come in and impress, the batting line-up may need a shuffle, though probably not ideal to have Bairstow and Taylor together in the order, hope Bell moves up to four though. Possibly bat Prior at six and Bairstow at seven.

I was wondering how they do it - personally I could see Taylor to 4 and Bairstow 6 as the right thing, but wouldn't be shocked by Bell 4, Taylor 5, Bairstow 6.

 

[Spark]

Depends what he was asked. If he was asked a direct question on it, I won't hammer him for giving an answer.

He hasn't exactly ruled out the texts being directed at ABdV and Steyn through someone like Morkel, mind, which is what has been suggested. I agree that SA might be stirring, but the stirring was in releasing the text, not this so much. Though it might be a sneaky dig at the ECB.

 

[Jager]

Anyone else predicting an absolute flop from England this test? Not trolling here, I just can't see them succeeding if this supposed 'rift' is actually true, let alone without their best player.

 

[grecian]

Am I the only one that thinks if Pietersen did release a statement saying the texts weren't about Flower/Strauss, none of you would believe him?

Not sure what your getting at here, if he had done that, at the same time he released the youtube vid, I would have believed him, I was willing to take that vid as truth, would have been the perfect time to do it. The fact he hasn't denied it until now, would make me suspicious now, I'd admit.

 

[uvelocity]

Where's that from?

'ere lad http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cr...ts-Andrew-Strauss-England-days-look-over.html

and that the saffers are distancing themselves is quite natural. They have a series to go about winning, I don't expect them to want to contribute to the debate until after the series if at all. The damage to england is done, job done for saffers

but I maintain that if they were to play poorly and lose this test, it'd be a choke.

 

[grecian]

Anyone else predicting an absolute flop from England this test? Not trolling here, I just can't see them succeeding if this supposed 'rift' is actually true, let alone without their best player.

Who knows, in the end we need to bowl them out twice to win, this doesn't really affect that, despite KPs wickets in the last match. Could galvanise them, and I've long been an advocate of five bowlers, so this maybe a way to do it. The damage already done in the dressing room, so I think as much chance as us combusting with KP in there.

 

[grecian]

'ere lad Kevin Pietersen cannot deny sending texts about Andrew Strauss, so England days look over | Mail Online

and that the saffers are distancing themselves is quite natural. They have a series to go about winning, I don't expect them to want to contribute to the debate until after the series if at all. The damage to england is done, job done for saffers

but I maintain that if they were to play poorly and lose this test, it'd be a choke.

hmm the Daily Fail, well could be right I suppose, not a great lover of the source though. All this stuff about deleting the texts, probably means KP could have denied it, but if he didn't know....

as, i say talking about it in a presser isn't really distancing themselves imo.

 

[Spark]

Oh I don't doubt that SA will happily muddy the waters "accidentally" (or at least incidentally) by not completely keeping out of it. But I don't think they said that to deliberately stir the pot.