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dontcloseyoureyes

dontcloseyoureyes

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Don't get me started on this, I'm still livid nearly 10 hours later. Everyone at the Magic should be sacked. The worst trade of the last decade by far.
 
andruid

andruid

Cricketer Of The Year
Total waste of Dwightmare :sad: . On the flip side the Sixers and Nuggets in themselves some good assets.
 
dontcloseyoureyes

dontcloseyoureyes

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nightprowler10 said:
I don't get why Denver gave so much though for Iggy.
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Afflalo was really poor last season, stopped playing defence once he was paid. Harrington is a 30 year old jump shooting power forward who doesn't shoot. They arguably upgraded their wing spot with a proven defender with size and experience, rid themselves fo Afflalo and Harringtons money ($45mill) and replaced it with Iggy's ($30mill). Great deal IMO.
 
nightprowler10

nightprowler10

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I guess I was stuck thinking that Afflalo was still a great defensive option. Shows how much I watched them last season.

Should be interesting to see how Kobe plays with Nash and Dwight there.
 
nightprowler10

nightprowler10

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dontcloseyoureyes said:
Even if he was a good defensive option, Iggy is better, defensively and offensively, so I'm not sure what you were getting at.
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That I didn't think Iggy was a big enough upgrade to justify giving up Afflalo, Harrington and two 1st rounders. But I guess if you take AA's lack of commitment and money saved into account it's a decent deal.
 
dontcloseyoureyes

dontcloseyoureyes

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nightprowler10 said:
That I didn't think Iggy was a big enough upgrade to justify giving up Afflalo, Harrington and two 1st rounders. But I guess if you take AA's lack of commitment and money saved into account it's a decent deal.
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They're both protected first rounders though, so it's not like they're going to be good draft picks. Any picks not in the top ten in the NBA draft are generally worthless anyway. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time, you get rubbish.
 
andruid

andruid

Cricketer Of The Year
dontcloseyoureyes said:
They're both protected first rounders though, so it's not like they're going to be good draft picks. Any picks not in the top ten in the NBA draft are generally worthless anyway. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time, you get rubbish.
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Tell that to Rajon Rondo
 
dontcloseyoureyes

dontcloseyoureyes

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andruid said:
Tell that to Rajon Rondo
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Rajon was scouted as a top 10 prospect but GM's were scared off by his inability to shoot a consistent jump shot. Not the greatest call on their parts, but you can't blame them. It's a God-awful stroke.

In any case, there's loads of examples of players who were drafted outside the lottery and became superstars (Ginobili, for one). But for every one you name, I'll give you 50 ones who never did anything but have a solid D-League career. The Magic just traded a top 5 player in the league (arguably top 3) for that crapshoot.
 
duffer

duffer

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He's right though, they're not totally worthless to the right GM. We got Lawson and Faried well outside the lottery (although Lawson never should've fell that far). But that said even most lottery picks never amount to much outside the top 3 or 4.

It's the flaw with building through the draft, OKC did it well but they lucked out on Durant and Westbrook and Ibaka were very raw and could've gone either way.
 
dontcloseyoureyes

dontcloseyoureyes

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duffer said:
He's right though, they're not totally worthless to the right GM. We got Lawson and Faried well outside the lottery (although Lawson never should've fell that far). But that said even most lottery picks never amount to much outside the top 3 or 4.

It's the flaw with building through the draft, OKC did it well but they lucked out on Durant and Westbrook and Ibaka were very raw and could've gone either way.
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Yeah but dude, they traded DWIGHT.****ING.HOWARD. His point is perfectly valid in any trade, except for one where you're trading the best player over 6'9'' in the league and the third best overall.
 
duffer

duffer

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Everyone knows they got back a poo poo platter as far as return goes. But they were screwed as their only suitors had nothing to give back valuable. Just goes to show how good a job Ujiri and Kroenke did for the Melo deal. The trade was an abortion in general, I'm not even sure what difference Iggy is going to make in Denver, they just allowed Howard to come West and are still first round fodder.

Philly and LA made out like bandits here. Denver did okay but Orlando could've waited and got better from the Nets when Lopez is on the block again.
 
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