CW Draft League

[watson]

Hussey at 5. Miller at 7 I think.

 

[Jager]

To have everyone in the batting position that suits them best, I'd go

1. Hutton
2. Mitchell
3, Walcott
4. Gower
5. Miller
6. Chanderpaul
7. Hussey
8. Mahmood
9. Laker
10. Bedser
11. Walsh


Slightly unconventional, but looks like it'd work to me.

Awta

 

[Jager]

Cevno does a Cevno and times out

 

[kingkallis]

Hope Watson picks now...

 

[watson]

OK, house full of guests just left. Great time. Now drunk.

Do I want a batsman, bowler, or allrounder?

Thinking with 9 remaining neurons.....

 

[watson]

Tony Greig it is.

 

[Jager]

having a good Saturday?

 

[kingkallis]

Had to add this man to the team : George Lohmann

CricZo XI

1. Matthew Hayden / ( 8625 @ 50.73 with 30 tons )
2. Graham Gooch / ( 8900 @ 42.58 with 20 tons )
3. Rahul Dravid / ( 13288 @ 52.31 with 36 tons )
4. Wally Hammond / o ( 7249 @ 58.45 with 22 tons; 83 @ 37.80 ) - 6
5. Kevin Pietersen / ( 6857 @ 49.33 with 20 tons )
6. Garry Sobers / o ( 8032 @ 57.78 with 26 tons; 235 @ 34.03 ) - 4
7. Rod Marsh + ( 3633 @ 26.51 with 3 tons; 355 dismissals )
8. Richie Benaud o / ( 2201 @ 24.45 with 3 tons; 248 wickets @ 27.03 ) - 5
9. Dale Steyn o ( 272 wickets @ 23.18 ) - 1
10. Wes Hall o ( 192 wickets @ 26.38 ) - 2
11. Neil Adcock o ( 104 wickets @ 21.10 ) - 3

12. George Lohmann o ( 112 wickets @ 10.75 )

 

[watson]

having a good Saturday?

Yeah, catching up with friends from Canberra that I haven't seen in ages. Lots of kids about....

 

[watson]

Had to add this man to the team : George Lohmann

CricZo XI

1. Matthew Hayden / ( 8625 @ 50.73 with 30 tons )
2. Graham Gooch / ( 8900 @ 42.58 with 20 tons )
3. Rahul Dravid / ( 13288 @ 52.31 with 36 tons )
4. Wally Hammond / o ( 7249 @ 58.45 with 22 tons; 83 @ 37.80 ) - 6
5. Kevin Pietersen / ( 6857 @ 49.33 with 20 tons )
6. Garry Sobers / o ( 8032 @ 57.78 with 26 tons; 235 @ 34.03 ) - 4
7. Rod Marsh + ( 3633 @ 26.51 with 3 tons; 355 dismissals )
8. Richie Benaud o / ( 2201 @ 24.45 with 3 tons; 248 wickets @ 27.03 ) - 5
9. Dale Steyn o ( 272 wickets @ 23.18 ) - 1
10. Wes Hall o ( 192 wickets @ 26.38 ) - 2
11. Neil Adcock o ( 104 wickets @ 21.10 ) - 3

12. George Lohmann o ( 112 wickets @ 10.75 )

Love your team KK. However, having a bloke at No.3 who can give the ball a tonking is important in my view. Hammond is a commanding player and therefore a perfect first drop.

Sobers should be told to pull his finger out and bat a little higher at No.5.

Dravid made his best innings at No.6 and is just the right man to protect the tail for your team. Or farm the strike to Hammond, Pietersen, or Sobers, as the case may be.

But I'm happy to be wrong...

 

[Jager]

I take it you're referring to his 180 when Laxman made his 281?

 

[watson]

I think I enjoyed this Draft more than the previous one as 12 Drafters is more engaging than just 9. A bit more imagination is required to get a good team together.

I'm now wondering which is the stronger of my two teams;

1. Bob Simpson
2. Mark Taylor
3. Rohan Kanhai
4. Greg Chappell
5. Mushtaq Mohammad
6. Lindsay Hassett
7. Alan Knott
8. Hedley Verity
9. Andy Roberts
10.Michael Holding
11.Glen McGrath

12th. Tony Greig

OR

1. Bob Simpson
2. Roy Fredericks
3. Clyde Walcott
4. Greg Chappell
5. Steve Waugh
6. Clive Lloyd
7. John Waite
8. Richie Benaud
9. Wasim Akram
10.Curtly Ambrose
11.Glen McGrath

12.Eddie Barlow


Initially I thought that Benaud's team was a lot stronger. But now I'm not so sure. Hassett's team has less fire power in the batting department, but may be more resilient over the course of 5-6 test matches. I think the bowling attack is also slightly more balanced with a definite advantage in spin bowling. But Ambrose combined with Akram is hard to go past.....

 

[watson]

I take it you're referring to his 180 when Laxman made his 281?

That's right. A cracker of an innings.

 

[Jager]

Akram is overrated in my opinion, still a bona fide ATG though. Big fan of your more recent team actually, it's got such great spin options

 

[Jager]

R1
kingkallis- Garfield Sobers
Himannv- Imran Khan
Marcuss- Adam Gilchrist
Cabinet96- Keith Miller
Eds- Malcolm Marshall
Cevno- Richard Hadlee
Blakus- Vivian Richards
MrPrez- Jaques Kallis
watson- Glenn McGrath
Jager- Curtly Ambrose
AndyZaltzHair- Dennis Lillee
kyear2- Jack Hobbs

R2
kyear2- Shane Warne
AndyZaltzHair- Fred Trueman
Jager- Sachin Tendulkar
watson- Michael Holding
MrPrez- Muttiah Muralitharan
Blakus- Sydney Barnes
Cevno- Wasim Akram
Eds- Brian Lara
Cabinet96- Len Hutton
Marcuss- Bill O'Reilly
Himannv- Alan Davidson
kingkallis- Wally Hammond

R3
Jager- Waqar Younis
kyear2- Allan Donald
Himannv- George Headley
AndyZaltzHair- Ray Lindwall
Eds- Joel Garner
Marcuss- Aubrey Faulkner
kingkallis- Dale Steyn
Blakus- Graeme Pollock
Cabinet96- Clyde Walcott
Cevno- Shaun Pollock
MrPrez- Mike Procter
watson- Andy Roberts

R4
watson- Greg Chappell
MrPrez- Victor Trumper
Cevno- Andrew Flower
Cabinet96- Jim Laker
Blakus- Sunil Gavaskar
kingkallis- Richie Benaud
Marcuss- Ian Botham
Eds- Barry Richards
AndyZaltzHair- Clarrie Grimmett
Himannv- Frank Tyson
kyear2- Ricky Ponting
Jager- Harold Larwood

R5
AndyZaltzHair- Les Ames
kyear2- Everton Weekes
Blakus- Herbert Sutcliffe
Jager- Neil Harvey
Cabinet96- Courtney Walsh
Marcuss- Steve Waugh
Cevno- WG Grace
MrPrez- Allan Border
watson- Alan Knott
kingkallis- Rahul Dravid
Himannv- Ken Barrington
Eds- Kapil Dev

R6
Eds- Frank Worrell
Himannv- Denis Compton
kingkallis- Matthew Hayden
watson- Hedley Verity
MrPrez- Ian Healy
Cevno- Anil Kumble
Marcuss- Javed Miandad
Cabinet96- Fazal Mahmood
Jager- Wilfred Rhodes
Blakus- Kumar Sangakkara
kyear2- Denis Lindsay
AndyZaltzHair- Arthur Morris

R7
watson- Bob Simpson
Jager- Dudley Nourse
AndyZaltzHair- Clive Lloyd
Eds- Gordon Greenidge
kingkallis- Graham Gooch
Marcuss- Geoff Boycott
kyear2- Colin Croft
Himannv- Hanif Mohammad
MrPrez- Saqlain Mushtaq
Blakus- Frederick Spofforth
Cevno- Virender Sehwag
Cabinet96- Bruce Mitchell

R8
Cabinet96- Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Cevno- Shane Bond
Blakus- Peter Pollock
MrPrez- Bob Willis
Himannv- Bill Lawry
kyear2- Ted Dexter
Marcuss- Ian Bishop
kingkallis- Wes Hall
Eds- Charles Macartney
AndyZaltzHair- Bill Ponsford
Jager- Alec Stewart
watson- Rohan Kanhai

R9
Cabinet96- David Gower
Cevno- Inzamam-ul-Haq
Eds- Hugh Tayfield
AndyZaltzHair- Frank Woolley
Marcuss- Stan McCabe
Jager- Doug Walters
MrPrez- Bill Woodfull
kingkallis- Kevin Pietersen
watson- Mushtaq Mohammad
Blakus- Kumar Ranjitsinhji
Himannv- Peter May
kyear2- Vijay Merchant

R10
kyear2- John Snow
Himannv- Derek Underwood
Blakus- Hugh Trumble
watson- Lindsay Hassett
kingkallis- Rod Marsh
MrPrez- Brian Statham
Jager- Douglas Jardine
Marcuss- Graeme Smith
AndyZaltzHair- Eddie Paynter
Eds- AB de Villers
Cevno- Mohammad Yousuf
Cabinet96- Alec Bedser

R11
AndyZaltzHair- Ian Chappell
Jager- Matt Prior
MrPrez- Younis Khan
Marcuss- Charlie Turner
Blakus- John Waite
Himannv- Godfrey Evans
kyear2- Martin Crowe
Eds- Eddie Barlow
kingkallis- Neil Adcock
watson- Mark Taylor
Cevno- Mahela Jayawardene
Cabinet96- Michael Hussey

R12
Cabinet96- Damien Martyn
Cevno-
watson- Tony Greig
kingkallis- George Lohmann
Eds- Jeffrey Dujon
kyear2-
Himannv- Bobby Peel
Blakus-
Marcuss-
MrPrez-
Jager-
AndyZaltzHair-

 

[Jager]

That's right. A cracker of an innings.

Why Rahul Dravid is India?s greatest Test cricketer, bar none

Agreed - you might find this interesting as well. IMO the 180 not his best but mighty close, and saying he's best suited to 6 for that reason seems wrong - I believe Bradman batted at 7 in arguably his finest innings.

3rd Test: Australia v England at Melbourne, Jan 1-7, 1937 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Under closer inspection, Bradman's reversal of the batting order may not have seemed so funny to the Tiger seeing as he was out first ball to Voce

 

[Eds]

Jeff Dujon.

 

[kingkallis]

That's right. A cracker of an innings.

So will I get more votes if I change it to,

Hammond
Pietersen
Sobers
Dravid?

 

[kingkallis]

But yeah Watson, that was a gem of a knock!

By the way I have a dominating opening pair and I'd love to see RD coming if we lose Gooch early. A dominating Haydos will need someone calm @ the other end. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[watson]

But yeah Watson, that was a gem of a knock!

By the way I have a dominating opening pair and I'd love to see RD coming if we lose Gooch early. A dominating Haydos will need someone calm @ the other end. Correct me if I am wrong.

The point of having an aggressive No.3 with 'presence' is that the batting side doesn't lose momentum or initiative just because an opener goes early. The feeling that the bowlers are 'on-top' shouldn't last for too long if the batting side can help it.

And if the openers do put on a substantial stand then the batting side would still benefit from having an aggressive No.3 with 'presence' because it can then 'put the boot in'. An hour or two of Hammond in full flow with his cover drives is enough to take the game away from the opposing captain.

With Dravid at No.3 it is possible that the batting will get 'bogged down' with the feeling that it is 'under seige' if either Gooch or Hayden get out early. That's bad for moral.

Incidently, it is for reasons of initiative and momentum that Miller and Woolley batted higher in the order than their average warranted. Bradman and Hassett thought that it was important to keep the innings rolling along and lift the batsman who had to come in next.

(Of course what I have just written could be all psychological mumbo jumbo and you are free to ignore it. But just think about what made Macartney, Bradman, Dexter, Kanhai, Viv Richards, Ian Chappell etc such memorable and effective No.3s )