***Official*** Australia in England 2012

[NasserFan207]

Playing in foreign conditions with zero time to acclimatise probably has something to do with it.

People from Australia and the Caribbean don't like rain

 

[social]

So Australia - worst no. 1 ever?

Nah, that'd be Eng in tests

People have to realise that Oz are only no.1 because we dominated ODIs for 20 years and built up a massive points bank

 

[social]

Christ this Aussie lot are utter pish. Recon England are a dominating batsmen short of being a really good team (KP).

Need to learn how to field first - they're approaching Indian standards atm

 

[hazsa19]

Nah, that'd be Eng in tests

Brilliant

Need to learn how to field first - they're approaching Indian standards atm

True dat

 

[social]

So without reinforcements, team on Tuesday looks like being

Warner
Wade
Forrest
Clarke
Bailey
Dussey
Johnson
Mckay
Pattinson
Hilf
Doherty/Smith - if the latter, he moves to 7

Not enough batting, all bar one of the bowlers are either lacking match fitness or not good enough

 

[Viscount Tom]

Could be worse we could be Xavier Doherty standard.

 

[social]

Could be worse we could be Xavier Doherty standard.

Eng's ODI back up spinners are worse but at least Patel can bat a bit

 

[Stumpcam]

Need to learn how to field first - they're approaching Indian standards atm

A bit harsh, but approaching being true.

 

[91Jmay]

When the pressures on and we face some real opposition then I'm sure they will tighten up. How many of that Aussie side would get into England's. Watson and Clarke are the only ones I can see.

 

[social]

When the pressures on and we face some real opposition then I'm sure they will tighten up. How many of that Aussie side would get into England's. Watson and Clarke are the only ones I can see.

Watson is a liability for Oz atm so I'm not sure how true that is

Anyway, I wouldnt get too carried away as there are some pretty big holes in the Eng side as well

 

[hazsa19]

Eng's ODI back up spinners are worse but at least Patel can bat a bit

That's not true.

Dalrymple and Yardy were more competent than Doherty

 

[Stumpcam]

People have to realise that Oz are only no.1 because we dominated ODIs for 20 years and built up a massive points bank

That reveals a problem with the ranking system then. Australia have been struggling relative to the dominant years in ODIs for a couple of years now. So how is it that Aus is still No. 1?

Surely the system should reflect much more current form.

 

[Stumpcam]

Watson is a liability for Oz atm so I'm not sure how true that is

Anyway, I wouldnt get too carried away as there are some pretty big holes in the Eng side as well

Where are these holes that you speak of?

 

[social]

That's not true.

Dalrymple and Yardy were more competent than Doherty

Sorry but that is rubbish

Despite the fact that Doherty has been poor in 2 matches here, his overall record is very good

It's like saying that Broad or Bresnan are better ODI players than Johnson - simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever

 

[social]

Where are these holes that you speak of?

Fielding, Bopara @ 4, Kieswetter @ 6, Broad and Bresnan are both pretty average atm, zero spin back up

 

[GIMH]

If there was a WC at home anytime soon we'd be massive favourites but there's still a lot of work needed away from home as far as I can tell.

Conditions in Oz/NZ will be more favourable for us than the last WC mind and we play ODIs in both countries in the next three years. It's fantastic to see how well we've done at home in the last few years - I still think back to Sri Lanka at home in 06 and cringe - but ultimately ODIs are about World Cups and we're not a side that will win WCs until we are doing it outside of England.

All that being said, it is fantastic to see how turd Australia are.

 

[GIMH]

Sorry but that is rubbish

Despite the fact that Doherty has been poor in 2 matches here, his overall record is very good

It's like saying that Broad or Bresnan are better ODI players than Johnson - simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever

Broad is definitely a better ODI player than Johnson, come on now.

 

[hazsa19]

Sorry but that is rubbish

Despite the fact that Doherty has been poor in 2 matches here, his overall record is very good

It's like saying that Broad or Bresnan are better ODI players than Johnson - simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever

Please be trolling

 

[social]

Have a look at their records

He has better records in BOTH batting and bowling than either

Seriously, you guys need to start watching some cricket that doesnt involve England

 

[Jarquis]

And you need to stop treating career averages like the be all and end all