**Official** West Indies in England 2012

[Jacknife]

Don't know about anyone else but I'm looking forward to seeing the likes of Woakes and Meaker bowl, that's if he he plays. Always enjoy watching the up and coming players, especially the bowlers.

 

[Burgey]

Well Darren Gough has said many times that he was more tired at the end of a one day international than a day of test cricket when he had bowled 20-25 overs. His reasoning being that for every delivery in the one day game you are giving maximum effort as every run counts yet in a test match you have plans where you don't need to be 100% all the time so mentally it isn't as tiring.

It would be interesting to hear what current players say about the strains on the body/mind of each different form of the game.

For me i'd be happy to rest players in one day series and give players like Woakes and Dernbach games (obviously current circumstances may rule out Dernbach) as well as batsmen like Taylor and Butler.

It's the way of the future, resting bowlers, even in Tests. It's annoying, but if there's an around the clock schedule it's going to be the reality unfortunately.

Tipping in five or so years it will be the accepted norm, whether we like it or not.

 

[Furball]

how do you come to this conclusion?

Because he had to have been sure Gayle was out to raise the finger.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

It's the way of the future, resting bowlers, even in Tests. It's annoying, but if there's an around the clock schedule it's going to be the reality unfortunately.

Tipping in five or so years it will be the accepted norm, whether we like it or not.

It will be the way teams go. Simply have to as no player even a batsman can play every game in all forms as they will burn out.

I was just saying what Gough said about one dayers and wondered if anyone else had said something similar.

 

[Spikey]

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But yeah, resting has to happen.

 

[Viscount Tom]

You should be just banned from having access to twitter.

Broad and Bresnan I can understand but Swann? I mean ffs he's a spinner. #nocountryforslowmen

 

[Jacknife]

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But yeah, resting has to happen.

They get to spend three days at home in 7 months I've heard, pretty crazy.

 

[theegyptian]

You should be just banned from having access to twitter.

Broad and Bresnan I can understand but Swann? I mean ffs he's a spinner. #nocountryforslowmen

i'd guess it's as much mental as physical. Few days holiday, refresh, back for the t20

 

[theegyptian]

Woakes is a poor one day bowler up to this point and at present doesn't have the weapons to be useful in ODI cricket - low to mid 80's speed, 6'2'', conventional action, no great death bowling skills. Of course his batting makes him attractive but he needs to do more with the ball and be more consistent in one day cricket to be seriously considered imo - and he may never have enough white ball skills to nail down a place consistently in ODI cricket.

It's a shame for him that the test team is that much stronger than the ODI team at present because 4 day cricket is definitely his best format and as was mentioned earlier if his batting continues to improve he could definitely be an option at 7 in a 5 man attack which would give england a load of options.

I think england might rest finn tomorrow also and go 7-11, patel,woakes, meaker, dernbach, anderson.

 

[Stumpcam]

I think england might rest finn tomorrow also and go 7-11, patel,woakes, meaker, dernbach, anderson.

I hope you're right, I would like to see how Woakes and Meaker perform on the big-ish stage.

But I think the rain will prevent much play at all tomorrow anyway, so we won't get to see how they handle an attacking Gayle.

 

[Jacknife]

Not sure they'll rest Finn as well, he hasn't played a right lot of cricket anyway and he'll be chomping at the bit to play. Don't think he's quiet been at his best this summer either, seems to try a bit too hard sometimes.

I reckon England will want to keep at least 2 main bowlers in the side in Jimmy & Finn because they'll have their eye on whitewashing the WI and moving up the rankings.

Hope they do play Meaker, really enjoy watching him bowl and he could turn out to be a top notch international bowler.

 

[Furball]

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But yeah, resting has to happen.

I'd rather they rested players from the limited overs formats.

 

[Dan]

Woakes is a poor one day bowler up to this point and at present doesn't have the weapons to be useful in ODI cricket - low to mid 80's speed, 6'2'', conventional action, no great death bowling skills. Of course his batting makes him attractive but he needs to do more with the ball and be more consistent in one day cricket to be seriously considered imo - and he may never have enough white ball skills to nail down a place consistently in ODI cricket.

It's a shame for him that the test team is that much stronger than the ODI team at present because 4 day cricket is definitely his best format and as was mentioned earlier if his batting continues to improve he could definitely be an option at 7 in a 5 man attack which would give england a load of options.

I think england might rest finn tomorrow also and go 7-11, patel,woakes, meaker, dernbach, anderson.

Not disagreeing with you, but he took 6/45 in that ODI against Australia.

Definitely a FC specialist though - should be playing Test match cricket sooner rather than later.

 

[Spark]

Hmm, that 6/45 was nowhere near as good as the figures suggested IIRC.

Also got absolutely carted in the next game.

 

[Briony]

Horrendous weather for summer!

 

[Stumpcam]

Horrendous weather for summer!

Yeah, the two-year drought that water companies were worried about a few short months ago has certainly been ended with a vengeance!

 

[Jacknife]

Hmm, that 6/45 was nowhere near as good as the figures suggested IIRC.

Also got absolutely carted in the next game.

Don't know, he bowled really well that game, whether he deserved 6 wickets I don't know but I wouldn't say he didn't deserve them. The next game was that 333 plays 334 game and just about everyone on both sides got carted in that match.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Woakes is a poor one day bowler up to this point and at present doesn't have the weapons to be useful in ODI cricket - low to mid 80's speed, 6'2'', conventional action

wat?

 

[stumpski]

Horrendous weather for summer!

Looks OK for the T20 at Trent Bridge starting in a couple of hours.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Looks like East Cambs is getting Nottingham's share of the wet stuff; stair rods out there just now.