Viscount Tom
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Or heck get Bob back even at least he's something different.
Or heck get Bob back even at least he's something different.
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**Official** West Indies in England 2012
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roseboy64
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The ball is in the court of the WICB and its selectors is the easy answer. He's available.
vic_orthdox
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If it were up to me, I'd never in a million years fine people for what they had to say on twitter. Nobody has ever actually had the thought process of seeing a cricketer's tweet and somehow thought "it reflects badly on the ECB". As though they were considering buying a ticket to go see an ODI or something and then thought, "no, there was that one time KP looked a bit unprofessional on social media, I won't pay to see him play." The idea that they do is just your typical management-speak bull****.
That said, it isn't up to me, and KP knows the rules. He can cop it.
That said, it isn't up to me, and KP knows the rules. He can cop it.
What a man.
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You've missed the point by a million miles. Sky Sports pays big money to the ECB for the television rights. A member of a team that is under the ECB's control criticises a member of Sky Sports. Has nothing to do with the public.
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If it's supposed to be about the business, then it has everything to do with the public. In private broadcasting the public audience is the product being sold.
If you're saying that the point is to reprimand someone for bad-mouthing what is effectively a member of an allied organisation just because, well that strikes me as petty and just as unprofessional as anything that might've been said.
If you're saying that the point is to reprimand someone for bad-mouthing what is effectively a member of an allied organisation just because, well that strikes me as petty and just as unprofessional as anything that might've been said.
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Firstly, lol at this inconsistency:
Secondly, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether the public is less likely to attend the game.
Have this as an example. VB is a major sponsor of the Australian cricket team. Say Michael Clarke came out tomorrow and said in a public forum that was broadcast to thousands (millions?) that he thinks VB tastes like absolute rats piss, you think VB should put up with that despite paying millions of dollars to have their brand promoted positively? Even though in beverages the product is being sold to the public...
I honestly can't see how you can not see this. Astonishing.
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NasserFan207
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Amazed people care so much about Nick Knight, seems quite a neutral character to me. Yeah, he said KP should be dropped from the ODI side, but who didn't think that at one point or another?
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best example ever
vic_orthdox
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Commercial reality says yes.
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Firstly, why do you start basically every post with 'hmm'. So annoying.
As a part of the sponsorship agreement, there's a written or implied term which suggests that you are entering into the agreement in good faith and that the reason why you're doing it is to gain positive publicity for the brand.
It's in the best interests of the ECB to keep all stakeholders, and I should think a major partner like Sky Sports is a pretty important stakeholder, happy.
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theegyptian
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hmmm
theegyptian
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Seriously pietersen is a dick and has had this coming for a long time.
But without knowing anything that has happened in the background, this won't change Pietersens perception that he is mistreated and picked upon unfairly by the ecb, especially as Swann and Broad seem to make ******** comments all the time and get away scot free.
But without knowing anything that has happened in the background, this won't change Pietersens perception that he is mistreated and picked upon unfairly by the ecb, especially as Swann and Broad seem to make ******** comments all the time and get away scot free.
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Firstly, what I said was:
I, personally, don't think it makes a blind bit of difference to the public what people of stature say about products, because the public either don't notice or don't care. Would you change your opinion of VB based on what Clarke has to say? I don't think anyone would.
As an aside, marketers get this anyway. They're usually happy just to have people talking about their stuff. Marmite are currently running a campaign based on the idea that half the world hates it.
Boards disagree, but they're presumably just taking the safe option. I get that. I just think Sky, VB or whoever need not be so sensitive.
If you're going to hound me for inconsistency though, could you explain what you meant by
yet
Is it about the public or not?
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Yeah I'm sure you'll get over it.
Well clearly it sucks balls for the ECB to have KP mouthing off at Sky. I just thought something like this might fall beyond the limits of the sponsorship agreement, or failing that, beyond KP's contractual obligations to the ECB.
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Ummm I said that to show that just because a product is marketed to the public, beverage/broadcasting, it has absolutely nothing to do with the public and their reaction.
You're still not getting it. This is crazy. The mere fact that Sky Sports, or a member of their team, has the potential to take offence to it means it is against the ECB's interest.
grecian
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Really, not sure I've ever read anything particularly ******** from them.