*Official* Indian Premier League 2012

[Arjun]

The BCCI, it seems, sent a directive to curators to prepare pitches that will yield a minimum of 160 runs an innings. Clearly, they haven't thought of the adverse impact on the Indian bowlers here. All Indian bowlers struggle on flat decks, and every one of the top bowlers has had a poor season. There have been unknowns and reserves who have had success, but limited- nobody's been a runaway leader like MF Morkel, Narine or even Pollard. Clearly, something to think about for the BCCI- and penalising the Dharmashala curator for preparing a seamer-friendly pitch is not one of them. Seeing the likes of Awana, Umesh Yadav and Chawla succeed, what do you make of it? Although it's always good to see Umesh Yadav in the wickets tally.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Wrong on so many levels, Ganguly's only problem is himself as a batsmen. Outside of his horrible batting this season (which, more than anything cost Pune a good 4-5 games), he's been excellent in all other aspects.

Ganguly's stubbornness is the downfall of himself. In the long run, if anyone is such stubborn and doesn't tend to listen to anything let alone good ones, bound to bring everything down along with himself. He goes by his old vision which brought him success early days like take Nehra for example. He is known to back Nehra for whatever reasons through his entire career either international or anything. When everyone was against picking Nehra in this PW campaign, he continuously kept picking him no matter what and look at the results. It's just one example of his stubbornness. After it's a known fact, he is a terrible T20 player and cant keep up, he played 15 games. Also it shows his childish stubbornness of trying to achieve something which never cant be.

With these sorts of mentality if he goes on leading any roles in BCCI either selection or any officials, sooner or later his mind set will bring down the cricket for sure.

Also that he's far from excellent in all other aspects. Keep aside his batting. Lets see whats he's done with the team selection. In every match there was about minimum 4 to 5 changes. He didn't even sort his team combination after 15 games. On a slow turner wicket, he left out Rahul Sharma, Murali Kartik. In every match they changed their batting order. The team was never stable other than winning those 4 matches. When a team loses 9 games, there must be horrible things going wrong other than only his batting failure.

 

[Contra]

Ganguly's stubbornness is the downfall of himself. In the long run, if anyone is such stubborn and doesn't tend to listen to anything let alone good ones, bound to bring everything down along with himself. He goes by his old vision which brought him success early days like take Nehra for example. He is known to back Nehra for whatever reasons through his entire career either international or anything. When everyone was against picking Nehra in this PW campaign, he continuously kept picking him no matter what and look at the results. It's just one example of his stubbornness. After it's a known fact, he is a terrible T20 player and cant keep up, he played 15 games. Also it shows his childish stubbornness of trying to achieve something which never cant be.

With these sorts of mentality if he goes on leading any roles in BCCI either selection or any officials, sooner or later his mind set will bring down the cricket for sure.

Also that he's far from excellent in all other aspects. Keep aside his batting. Lets see whats he's done with the team selection. In every match there was about minimum 4 to 5 changes. He didn't even sort his team combination after 15 games. On a slow turner wicket, he left out Rahul Sharma, Murali Kartik. In every match they changed their batting order. The team was never stable other than winning those 4 matches. When a team loses 9 games, there must be horrible things going wrong other than only his batting failure.

hilarious stuff this, to think that Ganguly decides every single thing from team selection to auction bids is stupid. There's an entire support staff, owners, other coaches (Allan Donald), injures, pitches everything plays a part. It didn't help that his best bowler got injured after the first few games (Dinda) and Ganguly's backed Dinda for a long time now. And PW's home pitch is horrible, and completely mis-matches their squad which is full of all rounders who bowl medium pace instead of spin. Ganguly's main problem is himself as a batsmen, if you add about 10-15 runs on each of Ganguly's innings then Pune would have won a good 4-5 games, given the margins by which they lost a lot of their games were around 1-20 runs, So they weren't exactly getting owned each game, they just didn't cross the line enough due to his slow batting (the Mumbai match was the worst where they lost by 1 run, should have won that easily).

If any of Kumble, Dravid or Ganguly offer their services in the future for Indian cricket, India will gladly take their services.

 

[Cevno]

****ing Chennai making it again to the qualifiers!

 

[Cruxdude]

****ing Chennai making it again to the qualifiers!

Haha. Would be epic if CSK go on to win the whole thing

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

hilarious stuff this, to think that Ganguly decides every single thing from team selection to auction bids is stupid. There's an entire support staff, owners, other coaches (Allan Donald), injures, pitches everything plays a part. It didn't help that his best bowler got injured after the first few games (Dinda) and Ganguly's backed Dinda for a long time now. And PW's home pitch is horrible, and completely mis-matches their squad which is full of all rounders who bowl medium pace instead of spin. Ganguly's main problem is himself as a batsmen, if you add about 10-15 runs on each of Ganguly's innings then Pune would have won a good 4-5 games, given the margins by which they lost a lot of their games were around 1-20 runs, So they weren't exactly getting owned each game, they just didn't cross the line enough due to his slow batting (the Mumbai match was the worst where they lost by 1 run, should have won that easily).

If any of Kumble, Dravid or Ganguly offer their services in the future for Indian cricket, India will gladly take their services.

cant stop laughing bro. If Ganguly decides to captain the side, definitely he has the final say on team. Coaches and team stuffs might say a thing or two, others might give some inputs but ultimately the final word is of Ganguly. Dinda played some games well but him alone would make a little difference if he could play the remaining games. When you post martem a team and why a team lost, you can't say if this guy scored 10-15 runs, they could win. That's just amateur level post match facts. If you lose by 1 run and Tendulkar gets out in 99, would you say if this guy scored 100 runs, we'd have won? Lol. Also of the allrounder thing, Mathews was born in low and slow pitches of Sri Lanka. His slower deliveries had much impact, also the squad has got spinners. One thing they lacked a spin bowling allrounder may be and Smith didn't bowl. And saying that PW lost only because of his slow batting is very ludicrous. Clarke, even Smith was sometimes slow. Uthappa was more than slow.

I agree that guys like Kumble, Dravid will come across more than handy for the betterment of Indian cricket but not Ganguly in official chair. Ganguly could be a part of batting mentor only and batting only; not in any sort of decision making or something else. Right now he's just making a joke of himself in the fields.

 

[Contra]

rofl, okay buddy, keep telling yourself that Ganguly's leadership is crap. And your suggestion for ganguly being a batting mentor but not leadership coach is hilarious, considering India has had a lot better batsmen than Ganguly, yet Ganguly is arguably the best Indian captain and probably has the best eye for talent in the whole country.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

rofl, okay buddy, keep telling yourself that Ganguly's leadership is crap. And your suggestion for ganguly being a batting mentor but not leadership coach is hilarious, considering India has had a lot better batsmen than Ganguly, yet Ganguly is arguably the best Indian captain and probably has the best eye for talent in the whole country.

lol ok this is the last post about Ganguly. Ganguly's clarity in thoughts got clouded in all these years which cant be ignored. He lead India to some great moments, no doubt in that but that was in different era and different time altogether. He backed Yuvi along with many others and they came great. The whole vibe was great along with the backing of John Wright. Never a doubt. But after all these years, maybe its the politics, maybe other thoughts which surely clouded Ganguly's mind and those things had much greater impact on him like the Greg Chappell incident for example. Now when he chose a role, its like he is there to prove a point everytime. He's the only among the playing captains in IPL who couldn't take the team to semifinals in 5 years. When he led KKR they used to finish bottom despite having Mccullum, Shane Bond, Shoib Akhter, Mendis among many other good players, now he's with Pune and they started to finish bottom. Where's his leadership skills gone? If for one tournament, you can understand, that might happen. But for consecutive 5 years? Surely many many problems crept up in his leadership qualities which he used to possess at those glory times.

 

[Contra]

lmfao, so it's Ganguly's fault the players don't perform now? So because MI made the top 4 Harbhajan is a great captain? Man you have some funny logic.

McCullum is ridiculously overrated. He was utter garbage when he had to lead, and he hasn't done anything significant since that 158 of his in the 2008 opening match, Bond was there for 1 season, and Bond isn't all that great in T20 (in fact he was well past his prime) and Same with Shoaib akthar who was there for a couple of games in the 2008 edition. Mendis is **** period, so I have no idea what you mean by all these good players. Just Ftr, Ganguly wasn't captain in 09 and 11 editions, so I don't know why your saying 5 editions. His captaincy is perfectly fine, his batting is crap, which is pretty much costing his team in a big way.

 

[biased indian]

****ing Chennai making it again to the qualifiers!

ya the worst thing to happen ...they have now made into all 5 KO stages

 

[Scaly piscine]

This is the game right here. Keep McCullum and Kallis in and the Daredevils will have an easy target to chase.

 

[Cabinet96]

Looks like they didn't listen to Scaly, could be a tricky chase with the pitch turning.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Looks like they didn't listen to Scaly, could be a tricky chase with the pitch turning.

Yep, then batted Rao at 5.

 

[GGG]

Great idea batting Taylor as 7 O.o

 

[LegendaryProtea]

Honestly, the people in charge of making batting order decisions lack basic cricketing knowledge. It's so idiotic that it almost beggars belief. What's the point in your "finisher" coming in needing 15 rpo? RCB did it all tournament long with de Villiers, having him come in when the game was virtually gone. MI have done it the last few seasons with Pollard. Now, DD with Ross Taylor. It's like they think "OK, let's make the equation as difficult as possible and then ask our best middle order batsman to somehow rescue us". Instead they should be thinking, "OK, the rpo is now only 8-9 so let's ask our best middle order batsman to use his experience and skill to take us across fairly comfortably".

 

[Manee]

Honestly, the people in charge of making batting order decisions lack basic cricketing knowledge. It's so idiotic that it almost beggars belief. What's the point in your "finisher" coming in needing 15 rpo? RCB did it all tournament long with de Villiers, having him come in when the game was virtually gone. MI have done it the last few seasons with Pollard. Now, DD with Ross Taylor. It's like they think "OK, let's make the equation as difficult as possible and then ask our best middle order batsman to somehow rescue us". Instead they should be thinking, "OK, the rpo is now only 8-9 so let's ask our best middle order batsman to use his experience and skill to take us across fairly comfortably".

Indeed. With Taylor, it makes simply no sense; but with Pollard, it is not as if he is incapable of getting himself in for a couple overs.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Honestly, the people in charge of making batting order decisions lack basic cricketing knowledge. It's so idiotic that it almost beggars belief. What's the point in your "finisher" coming in needing 15 rpo? RCB did it all tournament long with de Villiers, having him come in when the game was virtually gone. MI have done it the last few seasons with Pollard. Now, DD with Ross Taylor. It's like they think "OK, let's make the equation as difficult as possible and then ask our best middle order batsman to somehow rescue us". Instead they should be thinking, "OK, the rpo is now only 8-9 so let's ask our best middle order batsman to use his experience and skill to take us across fairly comfortably".

yeah tactical blunder

 

[ankitj]

Honestly, the people in charge of making batting order decisions lack basic cricketing knowledge. It's so idiotic that it almost beggars belief. What's the point in your "finisher" coming in needing 15 rpo? RCB did it all tournament long with de Villiers, having him come in when the game was virtually gone. MI have done it the last few seasons with Pollard. Now, DD with Ross Taylor. It's like they think "OK, let's make the equation as difficult as possible and then ask our best middle order batsman to somehow rescue us". Instead they should be thinking, "OK, the rpo is now only 8-9 so let's ask our best middle order batsman to use his experience and skill to take us across fairly comfortably".

AWTA. This is why MI lost season 3 final. It's too easy to call it out as audiences. I don't know what ****s up minds of the captains. This applies to not one or two captains, they have all done that - be it Dhoni, Tendulkar, Kohli or Warne. This can't even be described as a defensive tactics, it's just madness.

 

[Jayzamann]

Ideal for me would see Chennai go down tonight, Mumbai lose to Delhi, then Delhi to lose to Kolkata again in the final.

It's based on nothing more than wanting KKR to do well after being so lousy throughout the earlier IPLs, Chennai's infuriating ability to show up and get silverware, and my irrational desire to see Mumbai never win anything, ever. Gauti winning this against Delhi would be amaaaaaazing.

 

[Cevno]

Anybody except Chennai please. Like all the other 3 teams.