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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I wonder this, but then also wonder if in some cases at Arsenal they were made to look better than they were. How many of the players who left Arsenal who were part of the sides that won anything (and who weren't past their best anyway) have really faltered? Not many tbh, Petit maybe, Edu (but he was never that great anyway)...not as long a list as some would have you believe imo.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
I guess there's the whole big fish in a small pond cliche as well, which might make some average players look really good. I haven't really followed enough title winning Arsenal sides (just the invincibles) to be able to answer your question, but in recent years the likes of Helb and Nasri's careers have definetly gone downhill after leaving Arsenal. I don't really know how Flamini went after he left Arsenal, and I suppose Adebayor has done alright for himself since he left so I guess you could be right.
Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I'd say the 7/10 player tag is fair enough, but even so would still have said he was one of the top right backs in the league at the time. May say more about the quality of the league than about his overall ability I suppose. Apart from Sagna I don't really think there were that many decent players in that position at the time. I can't be bothered to think about it too closely, but from the other big sides you had Gary Neville (old and past it by then, and constantly injured), Bosingwa (rubbish), Paul Ferreira (rubbish), Ivanovic (better centre back)... and he was certainly better than all of them.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
A couple more classics from the FA today - first, Derry didn't have his red-card at Old Trafford overturned despite Young's dive. And then - almost inevitably and yet ****ing ridiculously - Balotelli gets away with his studs-up assault on Song because apparently one of the match officials saw it happen.
Ivanovic charged though. So the FA are 1/3 - which, sadly, is probably better than average for them.
Ivanovic charged though. So the FA are 1/3 - which, sadly, is probably better than average for them.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
"Where at least one of the officials has seen the coming together of players retrospective action is not taken, regardless of whether they have seen the full extent of the challenge."
This bit is being stressed - it seems as though one of the match officials must have caught a glimpse of the "challenge" but didn't see just how bad it was. Utter joke.
This bit is being stressed - it seems as though one of the match officials must have caught a glimpse of the "challenge" but didn't see just how bad it was. Utter joke.
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Saw it on the news earlier and Song was lucky to escape serious injury
Horrible challenge and didnt look like a simple error in judgement from Balotelli either
BoyBrumby
Englishman
It's an evil challenge, over the ball, studs raised. It's the same sort of tackle that Ramsey and Eduardo had their legs broken by. Thank the lord Song wasn't seriously hurt, but that's clearly just more luck than better judgement.
If one of the officials saw it (Arsenal didn't even get a free-kick) he should never officiate again, because his judgement is seriously ****ed.
Farcical stuff.
If one of the officials saw it (Arsenal didn't even get a free-kick) he should never officiate again, because his judgement is seriously ****ed.
Farcical stuff.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That whole one of the officials saw it crap is such a copout.
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The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Indeed. When Mancini says something like that he never goes back on it.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Haha yeah, fair enough, but I'd be surprised he'd go back on his word so soon after he said it. In any case, with the Tevez affair you get the feeling that he was rather forced to not to stick to his convictions after the powers above exerted their will over him. Reckon if he had it his way he would have been shot of him for good.