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***Official*** England in Sri Lanka 2012

hazsa19

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For me I don't think KP has been told he can't switch hit, but he's probably been advised Dilshan is perfectly free to abort his delivery if KP starts to change his grip before the ball leaves his hand. I don't see anything wrong with Dilshan doing that.
Is KP not perfectly within his rights to change grip? I don't understand why KP has been warned.

A word from the umpires telling Dilshsn to get on with the game would have sufficed imo
 

flibbertyjibber

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Well KP is a right hander and suddenly he is a left hander before the bowler bowls so his field is wrong. Can see it both ways. Just don't need standoffs like we had earlier, looks stupid.
 

Spikey

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Is KP not perfectly within his rights to change grip? I don't understand why KP has been warned.

A word from the umpires telling Dilshsn to get on with the game would have sufficed imo
For me, and I'm pretty sure in the eyes of the laws, it's perfectly reasonable for a bowler to cancel his delivery if it becomes clear that the batsman is intending to switch hit and so radically change how he plays and the ensuring negative impact it'll have on the bowler eg fields, LBW etc.

So yeah It makes perfect sense for a bowler to say "**** that" if he becomes aware the batsman is intending to switch hit, as KP was doing by commencing to change his grip before the ball left the hand. So the bowler has warned the batsman that he isn't gonna to allow that, and so it makes sense for the umpires to step in and warn the batsmen that to contiune doing that would be considered time wasting, because he knows the bowler isn't letting him do that so it'll just be a game of game of cat and mouse that we should avoid.

And it should be noted KP is allowed to change grip and attempt to switch hit after the ball has been released, because obviously the bowler can't abort the line-up anymore. It's just simply a matter of timing, and yeah, I back not being able to start changing your grip and switch hitting until the ball has left the bowler's hand.
 
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Spikey

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Likewise a batsman can back away if the fieldsman at cover suddenly starts running to point during the bowler's line-up

(the Michael Vaughan thing when he was running from slip to leg slip comes to mind)
 

Spikey

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I might be naming the wrong guy, but anyway I remember a problem when a guy was running from slip to leg slip LEAVE ME ALONE I WAS JUST PUTTING OUT AN EXAMPLE JESUS
 

Spikey

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it's probably a bit different for fast bowlers, just ftr. like, you can probably start changing the grip a bit earlier than for a spinner, but why you'd try to switch a fast bowler is beyond me. but just putting it out there
 

GIMH

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Likewise a batsman can back away if the fieldsman at cover suddenly starts running to point during the bowler's line-up

(the Michael Vaughan thing when he was running from slip to leg slip comes to mind)
I'm pretty sure that was Vaughan anyway
I might be naming the wrong guy, but anyway I remember a problem when a guy was running from slip to leg slip LEAVE ME ALONE I WAS JUST PUTTING OUT AN EXAMPLE JESUS
Yeah it was Vaughan

Played, KP.
 

Biryani Pillow

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So it appears to be in the series conditions that a batsman can be warned (and penalty runs can be awarded) if his setting up for a switch hit causes a bowler to abort his run up.

That is daft.

And I bet if it was a non English batsman who had developed it there would be no fuss.
 

Eds

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Those watching on Sky Sports - am I hearing them wrong, or are the pundits really mistaking a switch hit for a reverse sweep?
 

Spikey

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So it appears to be in the series conditions that a batsman can be warned (and penalty runs can be awarded) if his setting up for a switch hit causes a bowler to abort his run up.

That is daft.

And I bet if it was a non English batsman who had developed it there would be no fuss.
It's really not. The bowler has warned the batsman that he will not stand for that, and it's a perfectly reasonable stance to take, and so the batsman continuing to do that is a pretty clear sign of time wasting. I mean he knows he won't be allowed do it, so he knows he's just wasting time. The umpires were just making sure they got on with the game, and well how many switch hits has KP attempted since?

As above, KP is allowed to change grip and attempt to switch hit after the ball has been released, because the bowler can't complain anymore. It's just simply a matter of timing.
 

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