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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12

cpr

International Coach
Personally think Suarez should get a 3 match ban for bringing the game into disrepute over the handshake

Would mean Evra should get 3 matches for acting like a penis at the end - Having said that it would do us a favour the way he's been playing.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Look, I'm anti United, as I think most right thinking football fans are, but Suarez is clearly being a **** over and beyond the point at which it's defensible.

He almost made me glad United won, which cannot be right.
Exactly, Man Utd beating Liverpool is always easier to take than them beating anyone else but am finding Liverpool at present rather more contemptible than United even if not as hate inducing.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Sir Alex said it all, Suarez is a disgrace to the history of Liverpool football club.

Radical suggestion - if this situation blows up even more does the Premier League have the power to force Liverpool to get rid of Suarez for the good of English football?

Perhaps it's time to introduce a ruling that if your found guilty of racist behaviour it's a life ban.
Ferguson has settled one score with Liverpool by overhauling their title haul. I reckon he's got a score to settle with Dalglish - it was Dalglish who was Liverpool's manager in the 1980s when Liverpool were top dog and Ferguson was barely avoiding getting sacked at Manchester United. There's not a chance that Ferguson actually believes a word he said about Suarez - his dig at Suarez is a dig at the manager who has publicly backed him. Ferguson is going after Dalglish in the hope that Dalglish crashes and burns as Liverpool manager.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Sir Alex said it all, Suarez is a disgrace to the history of Liverpool football club.

Radical suggestion - if this situation blows up even more does the Premier League have the power to force Liverpool to get rid of Suarez for the good of English football?

Perhaps it's time to introduce a ruling that if your found guilty of racist behaviour it's a life ban.
Well, the punishment has got to be proportionate to the offense. Detestable as Suarez is, debarring someone from any (almost any anyway) profession because they've been convicted of the same offence would in no way satisfy this requirement in my opinion.
 

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:laugh: Eds' posts

Scholes has been so awesome for us, he's tended to start seasons really well then fade as they've gone on for the past few years so signing him in January has given us a really well-timed boost. Reminds me of when Arsenal signed Arteta at the end of August and were widely accused of "panicking", talk that he hasn't taken long to show up for what it was. Signing a player that everyone knows is quality doesn't magically become a bad move if you do it out of the blue.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
This is an interesting line of argument from a devout christian.
What's understandable and what I hope I would do are two very different things. :)

you said "Way not to take the high road, son".....A person who was independently found to have been racially abused was faced with the person independently found to have committed the racially abuse, and offered to look him in his eyes and shake his hand. How much higher can you get?
Not grabbing him, causing a scene in the tunnel, and celbrating like a tosspot at the end, which even Ferguson has scolded him for? But cool, welcome to the thread.

Arsenal the big winners in this round. Fourth is yours!

SURELY AVB can't have a job for much longer.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Dalglish doing his best to look like an out of touch arsehole as well. Have always thought Kenny was a fairly reasonable chap, but he's become really disagreeable as of late.

To say the following:

'I never knew he never shook his hand. I don't know, I wasn't there, I never saw it'

Only to then follow it up by saying:

'I think you're bang out of order to blame Luis Suarez for anything that happened here today.'

Has got to be one of the most stupid things I've seen/heard recently. Bloody hell man.
Taken some effort to make Fergie look balanced and impartial by comparison
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Taken some effort to make Fergie look balanced and impartial by comparison
Having thought about it I think a not insignificant amount of blame has to lie at the feet of Dalglish. He's pretty much put Suarez on a pedestal and worshipped him since he arrived at the club. It's all well and good to support your players, but the line he's taken on this whole issue is bordering on the absurd, and even after this he's still giving him unwavering backing. Spare the rod and spoil the child etc...
 
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The papers are all over him this morning.

I don't know if he'll mind, the whole thing is a handy distraction from how **** Liverpool were yesterday. And have been for much of the season. He's hardly a tactical genius and his transfers have generally been awful, and when a team is that bad at defending set pieces you have to blame the management. All he had going for him in the first place was the feel-good factor, and needless to say that's no longer there. With his status at the kop the club will probably be the last to realise they need someone better, too.
 

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Not grabbing him, causing a scene in the tunnel, and celbrating like a tosspot at the end, which even Ferguson has scolded him for? But cool, welcome to the thread.
You're criticising his reaction to being racially abused? Really?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
The way Liverpool have handled the whole sordid affair has been embarrassing, really. The tee-shirts were cringe worthy, the "we know he's innocent but we won't appeal" was petulant, Suarez not shaking Evra's hand was classless & Dalglish's interview with Shreeves was him at his disingenuous, sarky worst.

There is no way on earth he wouldn't have known about the lack of handshake, even if he hadn't seen it.
 

Pothas

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The papers are all over him this morning.

I don't know if he'll mind, the whole thing is a handy distraction from how **** Liverpool were yesterday. And have been for much of the season. He's hardly a tactical genius and his transfers have generally been awful, and when a team is that bad at defending set pieces you have to blame the management. All he had going for him in the first place was the feel-good factor, and needless to say that's no longer there. With his status at the kop the club will probably be the last to realise they need someone better, too.
Yeah largely agree with this although I think Comoli has to take a fair amount of the blame for the dreadful business they did over the summer. He did also try some interesting tactics at times last season although I don't know if that was purely down to circumstances or not. Either way the commentators were still saying yesterday how they have improved immeasurably since he took over, they may be better but they still nothing more than mediocre.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
You're criticising his reaction to being racially abused? Really?
So are many others including his own manager! I'll say it one last time - I completely understand the hatred towards Suarez, but Evra has made himself look a right prat.
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
Having thought about it I think a not insignificant amount of blame has to lie at the feet of Dalglish. He's pretty much put Suarez on a pedestal and worshipped him since he arrived at the club. It's all well and good to support your players, but the line he's taken on this whole issue is bordering on the absurd, and even after this he's still giving him unwavering backing. Spare the rod and spoil the child etc...
Dalglish's handling of the whole affair has been embarassing.
 

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