***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE

[screamingfields]

England picked up wickets alright. But what was that? The pitch is turning. England were dominant in this session. And finally, another good one for them would really do the job for them. Pietersen, Strauss, Cook. Can draw it for them, not win it. They need anything. But I'm quite certain they won't win. The pitch is really odd. First it looked flat, then it looked spin filled dusty, and now it's completely spinning.

 

[nightprowler10]

There are not many batsmen in the world who bat well with the tail...Missing Inzy here

Well he's probably not had to do it a lot throughout his career - even before he made his Test debut - as he's been an opener/#3 batsman with a conversion problem.

Even taking all that into account, taking a single off the first ball to expose your tail to quality spin is silly, regardless of a lack of experience or how bad you are at batting with the tail.

 

[Prince EWS]

Gary Keedy would dominate out here as well tbh.

disclaimer: I am basing everything off my ICC stint with Sussex

My point was, Panesar hasn't really massively improved over the last year or so. He just is what he is.

He went through a period when people criticised his lack of variation and he tried to rectify that but ended up just bowling one ball an over as an obvious seam-up delivery and one ball as a slower version of his stock ball with no revs on it so it actually had no shape or dip at all (ie. two balls an over were park cricket standard and easily spotted). This made him completely rubbish. He's largely gone back to what he was before that (although he does have a nice quicker armball now which he didn't have before) which will make him a handful on surfaces that suit him but still very toothless on those that don't. He's a decent bowler but he hasn't gone on a voyage of spiritual and physical discovery over the last year; he's just gone back to his strength - a very good stock ball that he can repeat with unrelenting accuracy and turn sharply when the pitch suits.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I think that's a bit harsh on Swann because this current Pakistan team are no mugs with the bat...Younis is an excellent player of spin and Misbah is good too

So why contradict yourself by defending swann but slagging off Monty?

Bowling to the same batting line up and Monty totally outbowled Swann here.

 

[grecian]

So does anyone think we can get within 150 of this target?

 

[nightprowler10]

England picked up wickets alright. But what was that? The pitch is turning. England were dominant in this session. And finally, another good one for them would really do the job for them. Pietersen, Strauss, Cook. Can draw it for them, not win it. They need anything. But I'm quite certain they won't win.

...if England bat for 7 sessions with target of 320 odd, you're getting a result.

 

[Black_Warrior]

what spinners do you rate

Warne, Murali, Kumble, Mushtaq, Saqlain, Swann, Ajmal, Shakib.

 

[fredfertang]

Should be an interesting fourth innings now, but I doubt it will be.

 

[Shri]

Gary Keedy would dominate out here as well tbh.

disclaimer: I am basing everything off my ICC stint with Sussex

DBZ.
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[Prince EWS]

...if England bat for 7 sessions with target of 320 odd, you're getting a result.

Yeah anyone who is talking about a draw is either trolling, has an inside tip on the weather, failed fourth grade mathematics or has never watched a game of cricket before.

 

[Z-Man]

Such a stupid way of getting out..

Another reason why you need an aggressive batsmen in the line-up

 

[grecian]

...if England bat for 7 sessions with target of 320 odd, you're getting a result.

Yep, particularly if KP is one of the batsmen to score runs. will not happen though.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

England picked up wickets alright. But what was that? The pitch is turning. England were dominant in this session. And finally, another good one for them would really do the job for them. Pietersen, Strauss, Cook. Can draw it for them, not win it. They need anything. But I'm quite certain they won't win. The pitch is really odd. First it looked flat, then it looked spin filled dusty, and now it's completely spinning.

Dude, there are 2 days left. Unless we have a cloudburst (unlikely in the desert) or somebody digs the pitch up tonight then there will be a result. Pakistan winning is clearly the favourite given how England have batted in this series. Calm down and enjoy it.

 

[Z-Man]

Oh BTW, I remember telling some posters before the series that Panesar and Finn were bigger threats to Pakistan than Swann and Broad.

 

[screamingfields]

Should be an interesting fourth innings now, but I doubt it will be.

Might as well be dead slow. Look at it from the pitch's point of view now. It looks spin friendly. But batsmen can still play, a bit. Fast bowlers won't get much if anything.

 

[Prince EWS]

Oh BTW, I remember telling some posters before the series that Panesar and Finn were bigger threats to Pakistan than Swann and Broad.

Well Broad's been by far England's best bowler so I wouldn't be jumping around about that.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Yeah anyone who is talking about a draw is either trolling, has an inside tip on the weather, failed fourth grade mathematics or has never watched a game of cricket before.

You do realize that I had said that when the match situation was different right? when there was a possibility of Pakistan declaring after batting out today.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Oh BTW, I remember telling some posters before the series that Panesar and Finn were bigger threats to Pakistan than Swann and Broad.

So half right then as Broad has been superb in the series. Both bowling attacks have been awesome and Pakistan have batted ok but England have batted crap all the way through.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Oh BTW, I remember telling some posters before the series that Panesar and Finn were bigger threats to Pakistan than Swann and Broad.

Before the series, that was one of my fears...that Pakistan would make a hero of someone like Panesar.

 

[nightprowler10]

Might as well be dead slow. Look at it from the pitch's point of view now. It looks spin friendly. But batsmen can still play, a bit. Fast bowlers won't get much if anything.

Broad was getting plenty of movement.