Australian Domestic Season 2011-12

[Prince EWS]

I'd be keener to play Moz as an opening bowler than I would be to play him as a specialist batsman in First Class cricket. He should probably never bowl in T20 again but his bowling in Shield cricket has always been pretty decent. If we do go with the balance you indicated (which we probably will) then he should bat below Nev IMO. Can't see you disagreeing.

 

[Spark]

Henriques is passable at 6....but only if he has to bowl. Let him focus just on his batting and he'll be horrible

And tbh I think you're being a bit harsh on Lalor: 18th Match: New South Wales v Tasmania at Canberra, Dec 6-9, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo (oh and hey Moz wasn't bowling that match...)

Kat isn't captain remember bro. Perhaps rush wasn't the right word, but I think considering they've picked Harris and McKay in the OD squad it's a pretty good attack. It hardly needs Cummins. So letting Cummins play a couple more FC games ends up as a bigger positive imo. #MaybeBias


edit oh and hey poor rohrer. goes from captaining to be dumped. but unless we want to dump steve smith - or worse play Moz as opening bowler - it has to happen

edit II: awesome scorecard #1 The Home of CricketArchive (lol at clarke)

More evidence he shouldn't bat #4 IMO

(although come to think of it, every time he's batted for NSW in the last few years he's batted #4, right? And scored plenty)

Sort of agree with the point about Cummins but just pointing out that it won't really be a workload rushing issue if they get him into the ODI team. If anything it'll be easing him into a heavier workload later on.

 

[Spikey]

playing moz as a specialist just isn't something I'm keen on. not right now anyway. I feel he's just been shifted around too much (eg batting at 4, then captaining and opening the bowling) and it's not really done him much good. I'd like to just leave him batting at 6/3rd seamer, unless we absolutely had to or we're like playing 3 spinners or something. If I had to pick right now I'd def rather him play as a specialist bowler if we had to, but yeah just let him play as an all-rounder where he usually performs at least to par. Of course we could open with him if he's bowling really well (we did that against QLD i think), I meant just don't only play 2 seamers. Which I like to think we would never do do, but this is NSW....

As for Nev/Moz for 6. Hadn't thought about it tbh. I suppose the whole Nev having a century thing says yes to Nev batting above (& Hauritz too) but they wouldn't. And tbf bar that pair Moz has actually shown good signs with the bat this season. Hasn't got that ton of course, but he hasn't been that bad....bar that pair. which was horrible. but inspired nev to ton up. so it all worked out

 

[Spikey]

More evidence he shouldn't bat #4 IMO

(although come to think of it, every time he's batted for NSW in the last few years he's batted #4, right? And scored plenty.

In the like 6 matches he's played for NSW since his test debut he's batted 4 in all of them, and tonned up in like 4 of them. and scored a 50 in the other. Michael Clarke does not make any sense.

 

[Spikey]

Mark Cameron just retired. #BusyDay

 

[Prince EWS]

Mark Cameron just retired. #BusyDay

Worst day ever!!!

Can't believe he never actually managed to play a Test. Travesty.

 

[Spikey]

I'm still 100% sure he was playing the 5th ashes test if he didn't do his hamstring. I have nothing to base that on apart from a feeling of course.

 

[Spikey]

wait tim armstrong is leaving to WA? Twitter

 

[Prince EWS]

wait tim armstrong is leaving to WA? Twitter

I heard they were talking to him pre-season. Obviously that didn't work out but he must've been relatively close. Either he's had a change of heart after knocking them back originally or he's gone over there to play grade and prove them wrong.

Either way, just another player we're propping up the other states with.

 

[Spikey]

Bit odd. WA hardly need another young batsman/all-rounder. They need a batsman in the Pomersbach age range imo. They've got a few young kids, plenty of older players, and nothing in between. Although I suppose Marsh could fill that gap....

 

[Spark]

In the like 6 matches he's played for NSW since his test debut he's batted 4 in all of them, and tonned up in like 4 of them. and scored a 50 in the other. Michael Clarke does not make any sense.

Haha yeah his record at #4 is like a voodoo thing, the most incomprehensible but most sacred statistic in cricket. No one knows how or why, but Clarke at #4 at Test level = failure.

 

[Prince EWS]

They've got a few young kids, plenty of older players, and nothing in between.

 

[Prince EWS]

Haha yeah his record at #4 is like a voodoo thing, the most incomprehensible but most sacred statistic in cricket. No one knows how or why, but Clarke at #4 at Test level = failure.

Bell not being able to bat 3 was similar, but not as exaggerated, and he fixed it up a little bit recently (albeit against India..).

 

[Spikey]

tbf to clarke, he did make that 60 odd (worthy of a ton imo) in that SL series at 4. maybe we should have stuck at it

 

[Spark]

Just had a look: since his Test debut, Clarke has played 7 Pura Cup/Sheffield Shield matches. In those he has 771 runs @ 96.38 - and all but one of his innings was at #4 (the other was at #8 after his back decided to ruin his life for a while)

 

[Spark]

tbf to clarke, he did make that 60 odd (worthy of a ton imo) in that SL series at 4. maybe we should have stuck at it

tbh

 

[Spikey]

oh hey speak of the devil: Cummins aiming for Windies tour | Cricket | Fox Sports

 

[benchmark00]

I've got a hankerin' for some KP.

Can't have a **** like that waiting in the wings! Gimme gimme gimme.

 

[Prince EWS]

Just had a look: since his Test debut, Clarke has played 7 Pura Cup/Sheffield Shield matches. In those he has 771 runs @ 96.38 - and all but one of his innings was at #4 (the other was at #8 after his back decided to ruin his life for a while)

Well to be fair, batting four in the Shield is less technically demanding against fast bowling than batting five at Test level. If he couldn't score runs at four in the Shield then he shouldn't be anywhere near any of our top six positions unless it is/was a temperament thing (which it isn't).

But yes it is amusing that he's been just sooo awesome there.

 

[Spark]

Yeah I reckon it's just that he doesn't rate Shield attacks at all, so just basically goes out with a mindset to flog them.

Which he then does.



Again though I think that it comes down to the main reason for his record at #4 - pure coincidence. The vast majority of those runs came when he was either in obviously good nick or when he'd just been dropped and had a serious point to prove (above 400 of those runs came in three innings for once out straight after he'd been dropped).