***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE

[Howe_zat]

Is that stumps? Encouraging scoreline.

For some reason or other I've managed to convince myself that we'll bat ourselves right back in front tomorrow. Will be pretty crushed if they collapse again.

 

[sledger]

this is why I always maintain this slow and steady approach by Pakistan will hurt them vs big teams.The likes of Anderson and Swann can tilt a game at any time you need to be more proactive(not reckless) when you have a partnership going.

Belies a lack of confidence in their ability imo.

 

[benchmark00]

Cool story bro, get in the present. It hit him in line and technology has shown that. Don't really know how it's possible to dispute that, yet you're finding a way.

Pull your head in + incomprehensible nonsense about a no-ball.

A bigger clown I have never seen.

 

[hazsa19]

A bigger clown I have never seen.

On cue; classic benchmark. Bravo

 

[Xuhaib]

Belies a lack of confidence in their ability imo.

barring Hafeez and Younis all of them are very defensive batsman the side needs some one like Umer Akmal to step up a quick 60-70 from him would have completely changed the game.

 

[Spark]

A bigger clown I have never seen.

On cue; classic benchmark. Bravo

Alright, alright, break it up now.

 

[smash84]

now who wants to claim that I was Gambhring.....

GAGF ****s

 

[hazsa19]

The match is still dependant on how England play Ajmal in the second dig.

This. If we were facing any other attack I would back us to get a 200 lead. But the mere mention of a 'mystery' spinner sends our batsmen into fits.

 

[Spark]

barring Hafeez and Younis all of them are very defensive batsman the side needs some one like Umer Akmal to step up a quick 60-70 from him would have completely changed the game.

Nick to first slip on 5 would also have changed the game tbh

 

[Pothas]

The match is still dependant on how England play Ajmal in the second dig.

Indeed, as will the rest of the series, the bowlers proved today that they can do a job on these pitches. As of yet we don't know if the first innings performance was just a one off collapse or an indication of a long term failure in these conditions. It is probably somewhere between the two but I am sure they will not bat anywhere near that badly again.

 

[benchmark00]

Conventional swing is much more dependant on seam position iirc though. So it's a bit harder. But yeah doing what I said in the post at will even with a reversing ball takes a serious amount of skill, hence why it's labelled an 'art'.

Nah you're actually quite right with just flipping the ball.

Conventional swing is reliant on your 'natural' action. Some are natural in swing bowlers, while others out swing.

Reverse is totally concerned with the ball and aerodynamics. You don't need a certain action to make it reverse one way or the other.

 

[uvelocity]

Nah you're actually quite right with just flipping the ball.

Conventional swing is reliant on your 'natural' action. Some are natural in swing bowlers, while others out swing.

Reverse is totally concerned with the ball and aerodynamics. You don't need a certain action to make it reverse one way or the other.

gonna be easier to convince me about aliens itbt

 

[Spark]

The skill I was referring to there is in more the construction of the spell though, like how a good spinner would work a batsman over with his variations. Because you can move it both ways at will and because it moves so late, if you really think about how you're going to set the batsman up you can make it near impossible for him to survive.

 

[NasserFan207]

barring Hafeez and Younis all of them are very defensive batsman the side needs some one like Umer Akmal to step up a quick 60-70 from him would have completely changed the game.

Agreed. The balance looks much better with Umar Akmal at no 6. At the moment this line up looks reliable, but a bit one dimensional.

 

[Spark]

Nah you're actually quite right with just flipping the ball.

Conventional swing is reliant on your 'natural' action. Some are natural in swing bowlers, while others out swing.

Reverse is totally concerned with the ball and aerodynamics. You don't need a certain action to make it reverse one way or the other.

With the caveat that you can't have Mitchell Johnson's action, ofc.

 

[uvelocity]

It's all on Mr Ajmal imo & whether he decides to unveil his teesra from this point

 

[Xuhaib]

Nick to first slip on 5 would also have changed the game tbh

very possible but the probability of that happening with Shafiq is same atleast if Umer gets in you know you will get fast runs.

 

[NasserFan207]

Nah you're actually quite right with just flipping the ball.

Conventional swing is reliant on your 'natural' action. Some are natural in swing bowlers, while others out swing.

Reverse is totally concerned with the ball and aerodynamics. You don't need a certain action to make it reverse one way or the other.

I've always thought 'side on' bowlers got more swing in general (reverse and conventional).

 

[uvelocity]

With the caveat that you can't have Mitchell Johnson's action, ofc.

nah I'm natural outswing and hit the seam 97% of the time. Need to alter action to bring arm near ear to get anything like inswing.

Maybe have just never bowled with a suitable ball, but I have got a ball I've used at training for years which is reasonable one side and pretty ****ty the other.

Play LO cricket so no chance of getting reverse in a game ftr

 

[smash84]

I've always thought 'side on' bowlers got more swing (reverse and conventional).

true