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***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE

Who do you think will win?!


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Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
It doesn't need damage per se, just enough difference in condition between one side and the other, you can achieve this through careful maintenance, like polishing the ball, seam positions and how the fielder returns the ball, etc etc.
Not really. First of all reverse happens more on dry pitches because the ball gets scruffed up more and because the pitch doesn't hold up as much.

Secondly, except the pitch the rest of the ground and especially the square being abrasive and dry helps a lot too because the ball gets scruffed up quicker and so creating a contrast is easier.

In this ground the square is green and so is the outfield, so reverse is less than what it could be and probably a lot later too.
 

hazsa19

International Regular
You do realise he wasn't given out for not playing a shot, right??
It hit him in line, which makes your original comment even more bull****.

But if you're going down the 'hawkeye is wrong' crap, then his lack of shot is very relevant.
 
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Spark

Global Moderator
Really good day for England then. They'd hope to clean up the tail early tomorrow and then bat properly.
 

benchmark00

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It hit him in line, which makes your original comment even more bull****.

But if you're going down the 'hawkeye is wrong' crap, then his lack of shot is very relevant.
What a ridiculous post.

Cricket has always gone with the benefit of the doubt with the batsman route. If that ball had flown off his pad and they ran as if it'd be called a no ball. Pull your head in.
 

uvelocity

International Coach
I think the art is more in the usage of reverse swing rather than obtaining it, working over the batsman with one that goes away away away then in or v. v. - because if you can reverse it one way you can in theory reverse it the other way by simplying flipping the ball in your hand
hahah nice theory. wish I could bowl inswing that easily
 

r3alist

U19 Cricketer
Pakistan have returned the favour and gifted a few wickets to England.

Whilst they bowled in a disciplined way it was nothing special, better shot selection would have saved them, no demons in the pitch or the bowling, England could actually win this, still 3 days to go.
 

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
Not really. First of all reverse happens more on dry pitches because the ball gets scruffed up more and because the pitch doesn't hold up as much.

Secondly, except the pitch the rest of the ground and especially the square being abrasive and dry helps a lot too because the ball gets scruffed up quicker and so creating a contrast is easier.

In this ground the square is green and so is the outfield, so reverse is less than what it could be and probably a lot later too.
This.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
hahah nice theory. wish I could bowl inswing that easily
Conventional swing is much more dependant on seam position iirc though. So it's a bit harder. But yeah doing what I said in the post at will even with a reversing ball takes a serious amount of skill, hence why it's labelled an 'art'.
 

hazsa19

International Regular
What a ridiculous post.

Cricket has always gone with the benefit of the doubt with the batsman route. If that ball had flown off his pad and they ran as if it'd be called a no ball. Pull your head in.
Cool story bro, get in the present. It hit him in line and technology has shown that. Don't really know how it's possible to dispute that, yet you're finding a way.

Pull your head in + incomprehensible nonsense about a no-ball.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
IMO, Pakistan have paid the penalty for being so negative

They could easily have been another 30-40 runs to the good without taking any great risks and padding up to straight balls is just ridiculous
 

sunilreddy

Banned
Cricinfo: Going back to the Misbah's dismissal, if this was a match involving India, the batsman would have survived (for obvious reasons) :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
this is why I always maintain this slow and steady approach by Pakistan will hurt them vs big teams.The likes of Anderson and Swann can tilt a game at any time you need to be more proactive(not reckless) when you have a partnership going.
 

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