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***Official*** India in Australia 2011/12

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
I was pointing to the fact that Pakistan's bowlers travel well, the fact that their selection has been inconsistent hasn't helped nor the retirements of some of their top batsmen and non-selection of others.

We probably are the worst travellers to the subcontinent barring the Kiwis and WIndies. Its not to say we do horribly whenever we go.

But in regards to India and Pakistan abroad Pakistan have a tendency to get really good pacemen and not have them on the Wheel of mediocrity within 18 months its the batting that lets them down. India its the reverse.

@Deathmonger: You could probably say the same about most countries. India's not terrorist free England isn't either.
 

deathmonger

Banned
Stop confusing ODI's with Tests. They are completely different. Even Tait can play ODI's.

And who do you have that's below 30.

We'll see who wins.
Zaheer also played two tests in SA and a complete ODI series in SA before the world cup. Then he played in IPL before finally breaking down.

Also before missing the first SA test he played 4 consecutive tests (against Oz and NZ)

So Zaheer lasts some time before breaking down unlike your theory that Zaheer will breakdown after a nice rest period.


And who do you have that's below 30.
- We are not bowling powerhouse. :laugh:


We'll see who wins.
- what do you mean by this. You guys will play series against the likes of Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and only face the top teams in the Arabian flat tracks. No way your team is gonna show their asli aukaad and you guys can live in the delusion that you are no 1 team as you have best W/L ratio in 2011 or something. :D
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant

Pak bowling is still better without Asif and Amir.
- Yeah Yeah. Not a single bowler with an avg below 30. Good for you if you think so.
See India's bowling line up.

Also wow 4 consecutive tests See Jimmy Anderson for reference as to how unimpressive a stat that is or if you want go McGrath to make it look even more pathetic.

Edit: Just checked that stat out he didn't he missed the first test of the SOuth Africa series and the 3rd test of the NZ series so that's incorrect.
 
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deathmonger

Banned
I was pointing to the fact that Pakistan's bowlers travel well, the fact that their selection has been inconsistent hasn't helped nor the retirements of some of their top batsmen and non-selection of others.

We probably are the worst travellers to the subcontinent barring the Kiwis and WIndies. Its not to say we do horribly whenever we go.

But in regards to India and Pakistan abroad Pakistan have a tendency to get really good pacemen and not have them on the Wheel of mediocrity within 18 months its the batting that lets them down. India its the reverse.

@Deathmonger: You could probably say the same about most countries. India's not terrorist free England isn't either.
But we have won series and matches abroad with pacers from the Wheel of mediocrity (albeit before they were in it) something Pakistan haven't been able to do so with their top quality pacers. I mean Irfan Pathan has won more matches in Oz than Asif, Amir, Akhtar, Gul etc put together. Sreesanth has won more matches in SA then these same bowlers and both Irfan and Sreesanth are pretty mediocre bowlers. Add to that the fact that their extreme pace line up still hasn't won a series in West Indies, a pretty weak team. Something even Bangladesh has achieved.
 

deathmonger

Banned
See India's bowling line up.

Also wow 4 consecutive tests See Jimmy Anderson for reference as to how unimpressive a stat that is or if you want go McGrath to make it look even more pathetic.

Edit: Just checked that stat out he didn't he missed the first test of the SOuth Africa series and the 3rd test of the NZ series so that's incorrect.
That's all we need from him. We don't need him in the ODIs. All I wanted to prove was that Zaheer Khan has some lifetime before conking out. Not that he conks out in every match he plays like is being insinuated here.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
Check the edit he managed 2 sets of 2 consecutive tests. Your playing a 4 tests series he will not las the whole series. On Australian wickets he's going to be having to bowl a lot of overs.
 

deathmonger

Banned
See India's bowling line up.

Also wow 4 consecutive tests See Jimmy Anderson for reference as to how unimpressive a stat that is or if you want go McGrath to make it look even more pathetic.

Edit: Just checked that stat out he didn't he missed the first test of the SOuth Africa series and the 3rd test of the NZ series so that's incorrect.
Yadav Khan Ishant Ashwin is a lot better than the bowlers in England and certainly better than Pakistan bowling.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
RP Singh was on holiday in Miama and should never have been picked.
Kumar acquitted himself well;
Khan and Sharma were on that tour, one was unfit and flabby the other was mediocre apart form one spell.
Harbajhan has gone down hill in recent times.

Its Australia the spinner isn't going to play a massive part other than holding the economy rate and bowling the overs which given the state of Zaheer Khan's fitness record which is almost S.Jones like in recent times he'll need to.

Also your judging 2 of your bowlers on the basis of a series against the WI.
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Just under a month before the NZ series in which he bowled 72 overs its not that impressive.

These will be 4 tests much closer he won't make it through the series I guarantee it.
 
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Neil Pickup

Request Your Custom Title Now!
Drop the Subject. Infractions follow to anyone who continued under this post.

This is about India versus Australia. Not Pakistan.

Thank you for those who have reported posts in this thread rather than responding to them. The mod team will be dealing with them in due course. Right now everybody else appears to be elsewhere and I've just had what will probably be the first of very many Christmas afternoon snoozes.
 

deathmonger

Banned
RP Singh was on holiday in Miama and should never have been picked.
Kumar acquitted himself well;
Khan and Sharma were on that tour, one was unfit and flabby the other was mediocre apart form one spell.
Harbajhan has gone down hill in recent times.

Its Australia the spinner isn't going to play a massive part other than holding the economy rate and bowling the overs which given the state of Zaheer Khan's fitness record which is almost S.Jones like in recent times he'll need to.

Also your judging 2 of your bowlers on the basis of a series against the WI.
Also your judging 2 of your bowlers on the basis of a series against the WI. - Same West Indies against whom you lost your last series in the Caribbean?

Its Australia the spinner isn't going to play a massive part other than holding the economy rate -

It's Australia. No way NZ is winning a match here.
It's Australia. No way Eng are winning Ashes here.

Oh wait. The golden generation is gone. Plenty of new things happening in Oz.

Khan and Sharma were on that tour, one was unfit and flabby the other was mediocre apart form one spell. - Khan's slim again and Sharma has regained his pace and in swing back. Wasn't cook mediocre in Oz in the 5-0?

Harbajhan has gone down hill in recent times. - That's why he's not playing.
 

howardj

International Coach
Season's Greetings, Compliments of the Season one and all etc.

Reports of a lively wicket after last night's thunderstorms with play expected to start on time despite the Christmas night deluge

Good luck to both teams
 

Burgey

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Wtf happened to this thread?

Be like me popping over to the subcontinental political threads and bangIng on about the reforms of the first Hawke ministry.

Bat**** boring, irrelevant pus about India v Pakistan? Pickup wins the thread. **** off and take it elsewhere.
 

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