***Official*** New Zealand in Australia 2011

[Zinzan]

Like to know the odds of an innings victory

 

[BeeGee]

Bracewell to make it through to stumps..........tomorrow.

By playing a night watchman our best batsman from the first innings, Vettori, is now batting at eight, and Young at nine, FFS.

So, to restore the batting lineup back to it's proper order, Doug should retire hurt after his first ball tomorrow and come back in at his rightful place.

On second thoughts, f*** it. I hope he scores a run a ball ton tomorrow. The prick could do with some luck in this game.

 

[Athlai]

Combined Australian and NZ XIs with just the guys who are playing?

 

[TumTum]

Pattinson and Starc are fighting to retain their spots. Doubt Siddle is going to get dropped. Will be an interesting day tomorrow.

 

[morgieb]

Combined Australian and NZ XIs with just the guys who are playing?

McCullum
Hughes
Taylor
Ryder
Clarke
Hussey
Vettori
Haddin
Southee
Siddle
Martin

 

[Athlai]

McCullum
Hughes
Taylor
Ryder
Clarke
Hussey
Vettori
Haddin
Southee
Siddle
Martin

Yeah I'd have the same team besides Ryder for Williamson at 3.

I'd also switch Haddin and Vettori in the order but that is hardly a major change.

 

[Zinzan]

McCullum
Hughes
Taylor
Ryder
Clarke
Hussey
Vettori
Haddin
Southee
Siddle
Martin

Ryder and Taylor ahead of Ponting....I don't think so

 

[Zinzan]

Are we taking about in this match only or best combined team overall ?

 

[Ruckus]

Combined Australian and NZ XIs with just the guys who are playing?

Pretty difficult qu. given so many of the players haven't been trialled in test cricket for long.

Pattinson and Starc are fighting to retain their spots. Doubt Siddle is going to get dropped. Will be an interesting day tomorrow.

I honestly have no real idea what the selectors have in mind for the India test. You surely could assume Cummins and Lyon are lock-ins. But that leaves two other quicks, and Harris seems to be out of contention going by the Pat Howard article on cricinfo. Siddle is probably a lock-in, but his position might be slightly on the line if he fails to take any wickets in the second innings. And as you said Pattinson and Starc are probably depending on their second innings performances here. Then there are the two other obvious reserves in Bollinger and Copeland.

 

[Athlai]

Are we taking about in this match only or best combined team overall ?

Overall, though right now, not career.

 

[Zinzan]

Currently I'd still take Ponting & Hussey over Ryder & Taylor in a Test side, would be surprised if most wouldn't

 

[Spark]

Pretty difficult qu. given so many of the players haven't been trialled in test cricket for long.



I honestly have no real idea what the selectors have in mind for the India test. You surely could assume Cummins and Lyon are lock-ins. But that leaves two other quicks, and Harris seems to be out of contention going by the Pat Howard article on cricinfo. Siddle is probably a lock-in, but his position might be slightly on the line if he fails to take any wickets in the second innings. And as you said Pattinson and Starc are probably depending on their second innings performances here. Then there are the two other obvious reserves in Bollinger and Copeland.

Get to the Hobart Test first before worrying about that

 

[Athlai]

Currently I'd still take Ponting & Hussey over Ryder & Taylor in a Test side, would be surprised if most wouldn't

I could see a lot of people not picking Ponting on his form from the last few years.

 

[Zinzan]

I could see a lot of people not picking Ponting on his form from the last few years.

I may be wrong, but I don't Ponting's average in the last couple of years has been that bad, it's more a lack of hundreds.

 

[Spark]

It's been dismal for the last year.

 

[NUFAN]

Currently I'd still take Ponting & Hussey over Ryder & Taylor in a Test side, would be surprised if most wouldn't

I would pick all 4 with Hussey being made to open.

1 Khawaja
2 Hussey
3 Ponting
4 Taylor
5 Clarke
6 Ryder
7 Haddin
8 Vettori
9 Siddle
10 Southee
11 ???

I don't really want to include Martin really as if he was Australian he would have been dropped long ago, if he actually made the Test team. But in saying that, he's up against really inexperienced players - Unless it was a turner where Lyon would play.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Watching Pattinson for just an over, it's hard to see how he won't end up a ****ing good bowler.

 

[Spikey]

for the last year shocking. before that it's been not going on, something that started around 08-09

 

[NUFAN]

This would be a better team/squad if injuries didn't happen!

1 Shane Watson 2 Usman Khawaja 3 Shaun Marsh 4 Ross Taylor 5 Michael Clarke 6 Michael Hussey 7 Brad Haddin 8 Daniel Vettori 9 Patrick Cummins 10 Peter Siddle 11 Ryan Harris - 12 Tim Southee 13 Jesse Ryder 14 Nathan Lyon.

 

[Ruckus]

Get to the Hobart Test first before worrying about that

Aye, in a moment of excitement thinking about the India series I forgot there is another match to go in this one!

Watching Pattinson for just an over, it's hard to see how he won't end up a ****ing good bowler.

I see so much potential there as well. He is only 21 which is pretty amazing considering how organised his bowling is. Not too different to someone like Siddle already. Siddle is a bit more consistent, but Pattinson looks more dangerous and can get more movement especially with the new ball. Needs to work on consistently bowling a more full length, but if he can master that he should be a real handful.