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Butt/Amir/Asif - Spot Fixing Trial

Cevno

Cevno

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Cevno said:
They can still be extradited i believe if both governments agree or if there is a treaty to do that and they want serve their time in Pakistan.

Doubt the UK government would agree to that though in any case as they might be contenders to be let go after a little time due to a Presidential pardon and political pressure in Pakistan. Same happened with Michael Shields being extradited to UK from Bulgaria and then let go due to a Royal pardon. Doubt, Pakistan has the political clout or links to do that either and Ideally they should serve the sentence in UK AFAIC.
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Exclusive: Butt and Asif ask to serve jail sentences in Pakistan

Undue attention from other inmates prompts two of the convicted spot-fixers to seek transfer

Two former Pakistani cricketers convicted of fixing part of a Test match against England have asked to be returned to their home country, to serve the remainder of their sentence.

The former Pakistan Test captain Salman Butt and the fast bowler Mohammad Asif have told their lawyers that they would prefer to be sent to a jail in Pakistan, because the attention they are receiving from fellow inmates is leading to fears for their safety. A High Court application is expected to be made within the next eight weeks.

The former international cricketers made the request to return to Pakistan after they were transferred this week from Wandsworth Prison in south London to Canterbury Prison in Kent, which specialises in holding foreign nationals convictedin Britain. Most inmates held at the category C prison are deported at the end of their sentences. Butt and Asif have told lawyers and close associates that they would prefer to be in a Pakistani jail.

The influential British Pakistani businessman Dalawar Chaudhry visited Asif this week. He said that the former pace bowler and Butt were sharing a cell and were reluctant to leave it, because of the undue attention they are receiving from fellow inmates.

Chaudhry said: "They are high-profile inmates who are worried about their safety. They only have each other in this country and are feeling quite vulnerable. Their families are very concerned for them. Both Asif and Butt have said that if they are going to be deported at the end of their sentences, which looks very likely, then they should be allowed to leave Britain as soon as possible and finish their sentence in a Pakistani jail."

Asif was jailed for one year and Butt for two-and-a-half years, for their involvement in a spot-fixing scandal in which they agreed to bowl pre-arranged no-balls in return for money during the Lord's Test against England in the summer of 2010.

The fast bowler Mohammad Amir was jailed for six months and the sports agent Mazhar Majeed received two years and eight months for his role in the conspiracy. Amir is in a young offenders institute and Majeedis in Ford open prison.

Lawyers representing Butt are considering an appeal against the length of his sentence, but not the verdict. None of the others is appealing. A legal source close to Butt said: "He wants to be returned to Pakistan as soon as possible but we will also be appealing against the severity of his sentence. We believe that it was unduly harsh."

The move by Asif and Butt to ask for a transfer to a Pakistani jail has been criticised by Chaudhry and other prominent members of the British Pakistani community. While conditions in Pakistani jails are notoriouslybad, high-profile inmates usually enjoy a comfortable existence and are often allowed to return home at night. There is a widespread feeling within Pakistan that the players are the victims of a conspiracy and public opinion is in their favour.

Chaudhry said: "I told Asif that going to a Pakistani jail to finish your sentence would look bad in Britain. Everybody knows that well known names in Pakistan are treated like VIPs in prison. We are trying to rebuild the reputation of Pakistan in Britain following this scandal and if these two return there to a heroes' reception and live comfortably in jail, then what message does that send out about Pakistan's attitude towards match fixing?"

Chaudhry gave an insight into the players lives. Last Monday they celebrated Eid in Wandsworth Prison and had a short game of cricket in their exercise time. While the two men could not get a bat from prison authorities, for fear that it could be used as weapon, they were given a tennis ball, allowing them to practice their bowling. Some fellow inmates acted as fielders.

Attendances at Friday's Islamic prayers have dramatically increased with the arrival of Asif and Butt.

Chaudhry said: "Everybody has wanted to meet them and the imams of Wandsworth and now Canterbury prisons have been amazed to see so many people at Friday prayers.

"The attention the players are getting has made them more nervous however as they don't know who to trust."
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Exclusive: Butt and Asif ask to serve jail sentences in Pakistan - Cricket - Sport - The Independent
 
Agent Nationaux

Agent Nationaux

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If the news is true that they will receive VIP treatment and be allowed to visit home during the night, then they should not be sent back until they have finished their sentences. However it would be better if they are sent to a category D open prison.
 
Cevno

Cevno

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Agent Nationaux said:
If the news is true that they will receive VIP treatment and be allowed to visit home during the night, then they should not be sent back until they have finished their sentences. However it would be better if they are sent to a category D open prison.
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I doubt they will with all the media attention tbh. And also, doubt that they will receive any kind of Heroes welcome even if they are deported.
No idea what exactly the scenario is in Pakistan, but certainly a bit of hyperbole in the article.
 
Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

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GotSpin said:
Would they actually get a VIP treatment back in Pakistan. Thought they'd be seen as disgraces
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I think without doubt some would still see them as heroes who were framed as part of a gigantic conspiracy. It's just a case of how big that collection of nutters were and what sort of position of authority they're in. There's also still the danger as mentioned by a few others earlier in the thread that if they get expedited they'll get a pardon.
 
fredfertang

fredfertang

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In the scheme of things they won't be getting a hard time in UK jails, in fact I should think they command a deal of respect from their fellow inmates, so if they really want to go back to Pakistan they must be very confident about what will happen when they get there
 
Daemon

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A ****ing terrorist was eating Mutton Biryani in an Indian jail, if Pakistani jails are anything like that then there's practically no doubt the two of them would be treated like VIPs.
 
Cevno

Cevno

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Daemon said:
A ****ing terrorist was eating Mutton Biryani in an Indian jail, if Pakistani jails are anything like that then there's practically no doubt the two of them would be treated like VIPs.
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Which one?

When they serve it on occasions/festivals etc.. they are supposed to give it to everybody, tbf. Human Rights FTL on some occasions.
 
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Agent Nationaux

Agent Nationaux

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He is probably talking about Ajmal Kasab.

I don't think they will get VIP treatment if they do get deported. It will be a humiliation for Pak if that happens, and because of the high media attention (as Cevno mentioned) they would be treated worse in Pak prisons.
 
Cevno

Cevno

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Agent Nationaux said:
He is probably talking about Ajmal Kasab.

I don't think they will get VIP treatment if they do get deported. It will be a humiliation for Pak if that happens, and because of the high media attention (as Cevno mentioned) they would be treated worse in Pak prisons.
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Not sure about in Prisons or what the condition is in Pakistan, but can't see them being allowed to go out and come back in night or something like that for sure. In any case, can't see the UK government agreeing to extraditing them in the first place, unless Pakistan government puts pressure.

Btw,Kasab staying in Jail and money being spent on his security and living is a farce on many levels, but he has to go through the due process of law apparently, despite being caught red handed doing the absolute worst act.
 
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Pakistan Cricket future in doldrums

Pakistanis crickers first get involved in illegal things and then blame each other to eventually get caught red handed.

Interesting isn't? :laugh:
 
social

social

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Appeal takes all of 45 seconds to decide - sorry, but this has been nothing more than a shafting!

Some years ago, I was involved in a court case which should have been an open and shut case in our favour

It took 9 months to get to court, 3 months for the first verdict, 6 months to hear the appeal and 4 months for that decision

Sorry, but I'm calling total bs on this one - somebody in power wanted it done and dusted quickly and got their wish
 
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