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Zaheer on Indian bowling
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Mike5181
International Captain
He's a pretty big guy. You just wouldn't think it from all the years of bowling along side the likes of Mcgrath(1.95m) and Gillespie(1.95m).Google it
Height - 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in)
Shane Bond would be in that 6 ft 1 range as well.
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I think if Indias domestic teams become stronger and theirs more stake In the ranji trophy you might start seeing some more talent in the fast bowling department. A lot of people don't take Ranji trophy seriously. According to Dehli coach (not anymore after his comments) A lot of dehlis star players Use first class matches to audition for IPL. The fact that Two fairly weak teams where in finals last year is proof that Domestic teams don't care that much for first class cricket. BCCI should use some of its IPL money and Tamsha and invest it in the Ranji trophy to encourage Domestic teams to find fast bowling talent and hire competent staff to deal with that fast bowling talent. And they will only do this if theirs extra incentive to win the Ranji Trohy. IMO its not that complicated. Investing in separate "pace" academies is a waste of time and a publicity stunt that's probably riddled with corruption and cronyism like a lot of things in Indian sports. Finding pace talent should be up to local domestic teams, and BCCI should only worry about giving these teams incentives to win.
Pakistan produce a ridiculous amount of fast bowling talent Despite its Infrastructure not because of it. Their model of finding fast bowlers is probably not the best to follow.
And also BTW human beings in general are not designed to bowl 90 mph inswing yorkers! Is the job of sports teams to find these genetic freaks of nature.
Pakistan produce a ridiculous amount of fast bowling talent Despite its Infrastructure not because of it. Their model of finding fast bowlers is probably not the best to follow.
And also BTW human beings in general are not designed to bowl 90 mph inswing yorkers! Is the job of sports teams to find these genetic freaks of nature.
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smash84
The Tiger King
Fixed it.
karan316
State Vice-Captain
A lot of people are questioning the attitude and fitness of players, but the fact is that our management and infrastructure is causing the main damage.Pitches don't encourage fast bowling at all, SG balls are being used here, which helps bowlers who swing the ball in the air, thats the reason why more number of bowlers are looking to become swing bowlers or line and length bowlers and not hitting the deck hard, why would a bowler bowl fast when he can pick more wickets by swing bowling?
Varun Aroon is the fastest Indian bowler and he bowls with good control, but look at his First Class record, there are many other bowlers who bowl much slower and look to swing the bowl and have picked up a lot more wickets.The schedule of the domestic matches is also quite hectic and demanding for the bowlers. There are 4 day games played every week, how is it possible to stay injury free in such a case?
And the worst thing with the fast bowlers is whenever they are in form, they are overused, they have to play the IPL, ODIs,T20s and Tests. Ishant Sharma is the best example of how some who can bowl 140+ with good swing, suddenly just lost his pace and became injury prone due to too much workload.
Varun Aroon is the fastest Indian bowler and he bowls with good control, but look at his First Class record, there are many other bowlers who bowl much slower and look to swing the bowl and have picked up a lot more wickets.The schedule of the domestic matches is also quite hectic and demanding for the bowlers. There are 4 day games played every week, how is it possible to stay injury free in such a case?
And the worst thing with the fast bowlers is whenever they are in form, they are overused, they have to play the IPL, ODIs,T20s and Tests. Ishant Sharma is the best example of how some who can bowl 140+ with good swing, suddenly just lost his pace and became injury prone due to too much workload.
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karan316
State Vice-Captain
But the bowlers are not getting enough breaks, 4 day games every week is asking for a bit too much.
And I have not said just about the domestic matches, flat pitches, SG balls which support bowlers who swing in the air, etc. are other factors which do not encourage fast bowling. I also made a point about Varun Aroon, he hasn't got much reward in the domestic 4 day games even though he is the fastest Indian currently, there are others who have got many more wickets by swinging the ball,this is because of the SG balls.
Some how if the bowlers still manage to bowl with good pace,they get too much of workload in the international arena, they are made to play all ODIs, Tests and T20s,
and the current Indian bowlers also have to play IPL along with their international schedule, which is very demanding.
@Daemon-And yes the climatic conditions is a factor aswell, when Bollinger started playing for CSK initially in the IPL,
he was finding it difficult even to complete his 4 overs in Chennai.
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LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
The fastest bowlers on the gun usually have more slingy actions and aren't 6"5+ (Lee, Shoaib) Dale Steyn is barely 6ft.
Look at Tremlett he's 8ft tall and built like Arnold but isn't the fastest. (tho prob quicker than anyone from India)
I think as said in this thread its a culture thing. There are millions of 6ft+ men in India.
Look at Tremlett he's 8ft tall and built like Arnold but isn't the fastest. (tho prob quicker than anyone from India)
I think as said in this thread its a culture thing. There are millions of 6ft+ men in India.
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smash84
The Tiger King
yeah but are they faster than the average indian fast bowler?
smash84
The Tiger King
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Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
More wrong than 'too hard'.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
VRV Singh was around 140kph in his pomp but is just now preparing to return from one-two years out with injury. Gony is around 125-135kph and Gagandeep Singh is very much 120kph.