Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Didn't see you arguing for Ncullum's inclusion in the test team ahead of patel when we had patel coming in at 8.
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*Official* New Zealand in Zimbabwe
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Those situations aren't remotely analogous.
Nigel Benjamin
U19 12th Man
Lamb underwent hip surgery recently so was unavailable. Meth though should be playing. I don't know why these selectors still have their jobs when they've clearly shown everyone they don't know what they are doing. Ncube has nothing special tbh while Meth can swing the ball both way(though he lacks pace) and his lower order batting is something Zim could use.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
how so
NCullum is probably equally as ineffective as patel wicketwise. and would probably go for the same run rate.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
All the spinners (except Patel) have been economical so far, so I don't really see Zimbabwe chasing it yet. I think they'd have to basically bat this whole session without losing a wicket. Vettori plugging one end even if he's not taking wickets will eventually build up some sort of pressure, so long as the other guy doesn't bowl complete tripe. Zimbabwe's tail is so horrible it creates its own pressure on the proper batsmen - there could be 30 needed with 7 wickets and still reasonably get bowled out.
), and one of them is a debutant, one sucks in the second innings, and the other is getting smashed.
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
Neither should be in the test side when you have guys like Guptill and KW who will probably do just as well themselves.
Tricia McMillan
U19 Captain
How many slight edges into the pads can there be in a single innings?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
1. Patel is a better batsman than Price.
2. Southee is a much, much better batsman than Jarvis.
3. The difference between Patel and McCullum on bowling alone is much greater than the difference between Ncube and Meth on bowling alone (in fact I actually think Meth is the better bowler; that he'd add something to the lower order just makes it even more annoying). Nathan McCullum isn't remotely close to being a Test standard bowler.
4. When Patel was batting 8 in the Test team for that whole one Test match, I did not support the decision in the slightest. The fact that it wasn't "Random Over-rated Player You Thought Of Because He Plays ODIs #28342873472374234" I suggested play ahead of him isn't relevant at all to the general theory.
Tricia McMillan
U19 Captain
It'll be relatively painless compared to this.
Maybe we'll nick Taylor in the nervous nineties.
Athlai
Not Terrible
They don't have a batsman as good as Taylor or a bowler as good as Jarvis. We'll be sweet as.
Flem274*
123/5
Don't forget that PEWS assures us that Vusi > Sehwag.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
All Sydney grade cricketers > Sehwag. Vusi has found his rightful home. Shame he went to such a dire club though.
Flem274*
123/5
Merchant comes from Sydney Grade Cricket, and he sucks. Therefore, all Sydney Grade Cricket sucks.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Lots of talk about how crap Patel is in general and it's not too far off the mark but Martin has been genuinely poor all Test as well. They've taken to Patel because he's bluffing but Martin has bowled far worse despite having more to him, IMO.
Flem274*
123/5
He's got his 200 wickets at 35. Lets drop him.
I don'tt understand Martin. He goes from dismantling India on a motorway with hooping inswingers to getting tap from Zimbabwe bowling wide of offstump.