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Butt/Amir/Asif - Spot Fixing Trial

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Interesting to see how much credit Amir gets for pleading guilty.

Out of interest, isn't idea of Amir pleading guilty being a secret somewhat negated by this thread title?
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Cribb, is it possible for Asif's ICC ban to be overturned on the basis he was found not guilty of accepting money?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The other thing to consider now is that their appeals to the CAS are a bit pointless now.
Don't suppose they have the power to inflict a proper lifetime ban instead of a pathetic minimum ban they got? Such a frivolous appeal deserves to be punished.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Interesting to see how much credit Amir gets for pleading guilty.
Judging (pardon pun, etc) by the cricinfo report his honour thought Aamer's admission of guilt stopped someway short of absolute candour. Cricinfo:

Richard Sydenham on cricinfo: said:
Amir's basis of plea agreed by the prosecution was:


The defendant's involvement was limited to the final Test match at Lord's between August 26 and 29, 2010.
This was the defendant's first and only involvement and was, therefore, an isolated and one-off event.
The defendant only became involved as a result of pressure (not amounting to physical threats) and influence, to the effect that, if he did not become involved, he would suffer serious professional implications to his future career.


"Amir wants to make it clear he wants to take full responsibility for what he did by bowling two deliberate no-balls," Amir's barrister Ben Emmerson QC said at the pre-trial. "This vulnerable 18-year-old boy, as he was then, was subjected to extreme pressure from those upon whom he should have been able to rely. He recognises the damage he has caused Pakistan cricket and he wishes to do his best to put that right."

Prosecution evidence, however, suggested that rather than being an innocent, naïve rookie who was taken advantage of, Amir seemed a willing conspirator, with text messages of fixing talk sent to two different Pakistan numbers that were recovered by police.

Of further significance was Amir's basis of plea - he owned up only to fixing the two no-balls at Lord's. This was questioned by the judge, Justice Cooke, because there was evidence to be presented by the prosecution that showed suspicious behaviour connected to other matches that summer, chiefly the third Test at The Oval.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Yes, I'm sure it was the act of a naive man doing something as a one-off under duress to text someone he doesn't know with bank details the night before a game.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
I hope Salman does not drop the soap in the prison or he might just get rechristened Salman "very sore" Butt.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
I feel bad for Pakistan cricket, but I'm glad a guilty verdict was returned and that these ****s face jail time. Fixing will never go away unless everyone knows that there are harsh repercussions for indulging in it. If there had been proper action taken in the 90's by the PCB against those tainted players, we may not have had to deal with this all over again today. I truly hope and pray that this guilty verdict is a sad and just end to the fixing saga in world cricket.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I suspect it means that someone here is, arguably, in contempt of court
But apparently the news is not supposed to be reported in UK only. It can be and has been disclosed outside the country including being reported in news channels and websites everywhere in India, Pakistan, Australia etc..... And this site will probably be hosted in Australia, i believe and the poster based somewhere else.:p

That rule of not disclosing it in UK and not reporting it there, as it could influence the jury for such a high profile case, is absolutely unworkable in this day and age of Information technology.:laugh:
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
I dont think its a sad day for cricket. That was more than a decade ago. Since then we have been through feelings of exaggerated cynicism wondering whether we would ever be able to trust any close results (and we have had our doubts), of acute denials in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary, of frustration at the lack of action by the ICC and the complete indifference of the individual boards to the shenanigans of the players.

No I think we have been through this "saddest day for cricket" stuff.

The second point I wish to make is that this is no time for "I told you so" either - certainly not if we direct it at a particular country. The problem is wide spread and players of many boards have been involved at one time or the other. Pakistan is not the only one. So lets refrain from that bit.

For those of us who have felt defensive when names of cricketers of our own countries have been involved and self-righteously indignant in the case of others its a time to introspect. The cancer is wide spread and but for the case being tried in a court, thank God, of justice of UK rather than a committee of a national cricket board or the toothless ICC agencies, this would have never come to pass.

I feel like writing much more but I am proposing a feature on this in the next few days so I will stop here . . .
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
But apparently the news is not supposed to be reported in UK only. It can be and has been disclosed outside the country including being reported in news channels and websites everywhere in India, Pakistan, Australia etc..... And this site will probably be hosted in Australia, i believe and the poster based somewhere else.:p

That rule of not disclosing it in UK and not reporting it there, as it could influence the jury for such a high profile case, is absolutely unworkable in this day and age of Information technology.:laugh:
Unless there was an injunction covering Scotland, it could be reported here - it just wouldn't be newsworthy enough to be reported up here.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Why change the thread title now?:laugh:

The verdict is out and it has been revealed officially in the UK too by the court and is free to be reported.:p
 

Faisal1985

International Vice-Captain
I dont think its a sad day for cricket. That was more than a decade ago. Since then we have been through feelings of exaggerated cynicism wondering whether we would ever be able to trust any close results (and we have had our doubts), of acute denials in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary, of frustration at the lack of action by the ICC and the complete indifference of the individual boards to the shenanigans of the players.

No I think we have been through this "saddest day for cricket" stuff.

The second point I wish to make is that this is no time for "I told you so" either - certainly not if we direct it at a particular country. The problem is wide spread and players of many boards have been involved at one time or the other. Pakistan is not the only one. So lets refrain from that bit.

For those of us who have felt defensive when names of cricketers of our own countries have been involved and self-righteously indignant in the case of others its a time to introspect. The cancer is wide spread and but for the case being tried in a court, thank God, of justice of UK rather than a committee of a national cricket board or the toothless ICC agencies, this would have never come to pass.

I feel like writing much more but I am proposing a feature on this in the next few days so I will stop here . . .
Thank you for a great post.
 

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